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1 year ago  ::  May 05, 2012 - 7:02PM #1
DragonWhisperer
Date Joined: Oct 25, 2011
Posts: 134
I'd like to start playing in the block tournaments at my local game store. I have the cards to build a W/R Hellrider Tokens, U/R Stalker, and Dredge milling. I haven't really seen a lot of deck lists, for block. I have understood that Tokens are good, but if you guy's have good deck lists from either of the 3 archetypes that I have listed then please post them.
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1 year ago  ::  May 06, 2012 - 4:06PM #2
MisterDubs
Date Joined: Mar 7, 2011
Posts: 555
I'd say the most powerful deck in Block pre-Avycyn Restored is Boros Hellrider decks, so I'd play that if your looking to be really competive, however imo the most fun deck to play is Self-Mill, it's also quite powerful and can stand up against any of the decks in the format, I have a list that I play casually with:


Creatures
3 x Avacyn's Pilgrim
3 x Boneyard Wurm
3 x Deranged Assistant
2 x Screeching Skaab
4 x Armored Skaab
4 x Splinterfright
2 x Kessig Cagebreakers
3 x Ghoultree

Spells
1 x Artful Dodge
4 x Mulch
4 x Tracker's Instinct
2 x Gnaw to the Bone
1 x Garruk Relentless
2 x Blasphemous Act

Lands
2 x Shimmering Grotto
4 x Hinterland Harbor
4 x Sulfur Falls
1 x Island
1 x Mountain
5 x Forests
4 x Evolving Wilds
1 x Kessig Wolf Run



I used to run it with instead of to give access to Sever the Bloodline and the flashback on Spider Spawning but changed it to red to give me the board sweeper and Kessig Wolf Run . the sweeper is very important if your going to be facing alot of Boros decks, and I'd consider increasing the number if thats the case. I don't have a sideboard figured out yet, but i'd put in Undead Alchemist in it to deal with the mirror.
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1 year ago  ::  May 06, 2012 - 8:45PM #3
DragonWhisperer
Date Joined: Oct 25, 2011
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Thx for the help. I guess I will try both of them. For the first tournament, I guess I should just play Tokens. Would the example deck list in the ReConstructed article be good for the tournament. How has the mill-deck been working you, in your casual play?
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1 year ago  ::  May 07, 2012 - 12:35PM #4
MisterDubs
Date Joined: Mar 7, 2011
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The deck list in the ReConstructed article looks like a good place to start, however now Avycyn Restored is out you might want to add some cards from there, if you have any, as got alot of sweet cards.

My self-mill deck has been working quite well, it can beat any deck in the pre-Avycyn format and can get some very powerful draws, however things can go wrong if you can't fill your graveyard with creatures early, I used to run Dream Twist , and that helped out with being able to get a creature or two in the yard early enabling me to play my Boneyard Wurm s and Splinterfright s on turn 2 and 3.  But now I just can't find the room for them.
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1 year ago  ::  May 07, 2012 - 6:16PM #5
DragonWhisperer
Date Joined: Oct 25, 2011
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I read some article about block constructed post-AVR. Silverblade Paladin seems good, and will probably be played. Thier is the pro-tour this weekend, so we can see what the pros come up with, unfortunatly if a card does well their then it might go up in price. Maybe like 1 or 2 of the Slayers' Stronghold depending on how consistent the mana is. I don't have to much AVR cards yet, so my friends and I don't own many of the good AVR cards.
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1 year ago  ::  May 08, 2012 - 7:11AM #6
DragonWhisperer
Date Joined: Oct 25, 2011
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I found the website that was talking about Boros Tokens http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/isdblock/24013_Avacyn_Restored_Week_Block_Constructed_Review.html
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1 year ago  ::  May 09, 2012 - 11:52AM #7
Torpesh
Date Joined: Oct 25, 2011
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The problem that I see with the self-mill deck is that it typically has no way to interact with your opponent. You at least have a couple Blasphemous Act s in there, but against the typical deck I can play any creature and know that it's going to stick and stay. The deck I've been playing lately is BRw control, with Olivia Voldaren and Sorin, Lord of Innistrad as the major win conditions (along with Devil's Play , Stensia Bloodhall and some other burn).

I have enough removal that I can usually keep the big Splinterfright s and Boneyard Wurm s off of the battlefield long enough to get an Olivia Voldaren in play with 7 mana. At that point any creature that they drop I just take (it usually dies since they can't put any of my creatures in the graveyard.) If they cast a Spider Spawning it's usually either negated by a Curse of Death's Hold or I use Blaphemous Act or Rolling Temblor . That's usually late enough in the game that I have a backup Olivia Voldaren in my hand anyway if I have to use the Blasphemous Act .

I think I've lost one match against the self-mill deck out of about 7. In one game my opponent was able to drop two creatures in one turn and then used Artful Dodge to get him through for lethal and in the other game I had to mulligan to 5 and my 2-land hand didn't draw a land until turn 5 or so.

It's a decent deck, but the inability to deal with threats is a major problem IMO. You can't always rely on Gnaw to the Bone to save you since an opponent can basically lock your deck down completely and it doesn't matter how much life you have. It is fun to play though.
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1 year ago  ::  May 09, 2012 - 9:55PM #8
DragonWhisperer
Date Joined: Oct 25, 2011
Posts: 134
Hmm... So the version with red isn't good against the Olivia decks. Sever the Bloodline is some removal for her, but the black version doesn't have Blasphemous Act for against the token decks which are a big part of the meta.
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1 year ago  ::  May 18, 2012 - 2:38AM #9
mtg_guru
Date Joined: Oct 12, 2007
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May 9, 2012 -- 9:55PM, DragonWhisperer wrote:

Hmm... So the version with red isn't good against the Olivia decks. Sever the Bloodline is some removal for her, but the black version doesn't have Blasphemous Act for against the token decks which are a big part of the meta.




Yeah your absolutley right no one runs Blasphemous Act in Self mill, I guess I must be imagining that red spell in my board.


 


5 Forest
4 Woodland Cemetery
2 Island
4 Hinterland Harbor  
4 Shimmering Grotto

Creatures

4 Avacyn's Pilgrim
4 Deranged Assistant
4 Boneyard Wurm
4 Armored Skaab
4 Splinterfright
3 Kessig Cagebreakers
1 Laboratory Maniac

Spells

4 Tracker's Instinct
4 Mulch
3 Gnaw to the Bone
1 Sever the Bloodline
3 Spider Spawning
2 Unburial Rites

Sideboard

3 Undead Alchemist
3 Blasphemous Act (remember no one runs this board)
1 Sulfur Falls
3 Bramblecrush
1 Creeping Renaissance
1 Gnaw to the Bone
2 Sheltering Word
1 Sever the Bloodline

@Torpesh: I for one would love to see your decklist that seems to have the meta sorted as it sounds like a intresting deck.

As here is my expected list you post if you do indeed post at all

3 Clifftop Retreat
4 Isolated Chapel
Evolving Wilds
5 Mountain
8 Swamp
1 Plains
2 Stensia Bloodhall

4 Olivia Voldaren
2 Bloodline Keeper
4 Bloodgift Demon
1 Balefire Dragon

4 Blasphemous Act
4 Terminus
4 Sever the Bloodline
2 Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
3 Devil's Play
3 Midnight Haunting
Unburial Rites




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13 months ago  ::  May 18, 2012 - 9:14PM #10
DragonWhisperer
Date Joined: Oct 25, 2011
Posts: 134
I actually am playing R/W Humans now, but I like self-mill to, so I am open to idea's about it. About "no one right now run's Act in the main-deck." is this because black is better in the new meta? I thought in pre-AVR, Act was so it had a way to survive early against Boros decks? I am knew to block constructed, so sorry if some of my idea's about mill are weird, I am trying to learn. During the core-set is it still Innistrad block constructed?
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