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1 year ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 11:26AM #1
Mobius_XI
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Hello, a question came up that I wasn't sure of.
If my opponent has a counterbalance out and I cast Entreat the Angels for it's miracle cost, what would be the required mana cost on top of my opponent's library for it to be countered? At first I thought it would be three, but doubt was cast when someone mentioned that perhaps the X would be applied to the XXWWW cost, if that makes any sense.

Any help would be appreciated.
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1 year ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 11:30AM #2
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Converted mana cost is always the cost in the top right corner. If X is 2, the CMC of Entreat is 7, whether it was cast for its miracle cost or its normal cost.
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1 year ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 11:32AM #3
Mobius_XI
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I knew it was based on the top right corner, I just didn't know if the X chosen for the miracle cost was taken into account for the XX of the orginal cost. Anyway, that answers the question. Thank you.
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1 year ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 11:35AM #4
Enigma256
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X in manacosts is only 0 when not on the stack
on the stack it is whatever the player has chosen for it.

so for example you cannot Counterbalance their Entreat the Angels with your own.
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