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1 year ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 11:13AM #1
soulbomb77
Date Joined: Jan 23, 2012
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Here's a mono black aggro deck I'm putting together just for kicks a giggles, but who knows?  Might turn out to be beastly.

4 x Gravecrawler
4 x Treacherous Pit-Dweller
4 x Geralf's Messenger
4 x Demonlord of Ashmouth
2 x Blood Artist
2 x Dread Slaver
2 x Harvester of Souls

4 x Killing Wave
3 x Dismember
4 x Tragic Slip
2 x Doom Blade
2 x Go for the Throat

23 x Swamp

Sideboard:
2 x Memoricide
3 x Surgical Extraction
2 x Triumph of Cruelty
2 x Tribute to Hunger
4 x Distress
2 x Go for the Throat

I've thought about working in a sac outlet like Bloodflow Connossieur , but I'm not sure.  I certainly have enough stuff mainboard to kill that treacherous little (big?) demon when/if he switches sides.

Thoughts?
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1 year ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 11:28AM #2
Pasqual
Date Joined: Apr 7, 2010
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You probably don't need the Killing Waves. They're very high variance as to their usefulness and the good probably doesn't outweight the bad. Perhaps those slots could go to your extra sac outlet, the Bloodflow or Altar's Reap or something else? Having a sac outlet that gains you profit will work out a lot better than 2-for-1ing yourself keeping them from getting your Pit-Dweller.
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1 year ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 11:35AM #3
soulbomb77
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I kinda dig the Killing Wave s, though.  Anything that goes to the grave nets me life, and it beats aggro strategies that flood the field with creatures.  I suppose I could drop a couple and add in some Connossieurs in their place.
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1 year ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 11:44AM #4
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I highly second the Altar's Reap.
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1 year ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 12:07PM #5
Pasqual
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May 4, 2012 -- 11:35AM, soulbomb77 wrote:

I kinda dig the Killing Wave s, though.  Anything that goes to the grave nets me life, and it beats aggro strategies that flood the field with creatures.  I suppose I could drop a couple and add in some Connossieurs in their place.




But it doesn't beat aggro strategies. When you cast Killing Wave, you have to sac your creatures/lose your life first. This lets them see what you have left on the field before they decide which of their creatures are relevant. And if they're another aggro deck, they are probably okay with losing a bunch of life to kill you on your next turn.

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1 year ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 12:18PM #6
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May 4, 2012 -- 12:07PM, Pasqual wrote:

But it doesn't beat aggro strategies. When you cast Killing Wave, you have to sac your creatures/lose your life first. This lets them see what you have left on the field before they decide which of their creatures are relevant. And if they're another aggro deck, they are probably okay with losing a bunch of life to kill you on your next turn.



Each player would make their choices simultanieously.

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1 year ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 12:23PM #7
NEStomato
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Read the Gatherer rulings, the other players will know what you saved/sacced before they have to make their own choices.

IMHO, Pit-Dweller is highly playable, but not in this kind of build.  You need more instant-speed removal for your own guy that nets you value, like Altar's Reap or Fling before he fits into a deck.  Just having a sac outlet isn't enough, you want to get value off of it that's worth the -2 Card Advatage.
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1 year ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 1:08PM #8
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May 4, 2012 -- 12:23PM, NEStomato wrote:

Read the Gatherer rulings, the other players will know what you saved/sacced before they have to make their own choices.

IMHO, Pit-Dweller is highly playable, but not in this kind of build.  You need more instant-speed removal for your own guy that nets you value, like Altar's Reap or Fling before he fits into a deck.  Just having a sac outlet isn't enough, you want to get value off of it that's worth the -2 Card Advatage.




This, all of this.

I think there's potential in a BR build also running Vexing Devil and Torpor Orb which would also have the benefit of maindecking hate for other ETB creatures in the meta.

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1 year ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 10:35PM #9
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Demonlord of Ashmouth and Torpor Orb, and Torpor Orb, and Torpor Orb.

Nov 4, 2010 -- 9:11AM, Niche wrote:

Nov 3, 2010 -- 10:05PM, Razorgore wrote:

It's really not even about giving niche cards to black.



It should be about giving black cards to Niche.

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1 year ago  ::  May 08, 2012 - 6:23AM #10
soulbomb77
Date Joined: Jan 23, 2012
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New build.  I've added in Torpor Orb as a 4-of, and I'm removing Geralf's Messenger because it hoses him, as well as Gravecrawler due to general lack of zombies.  So I've had to replace my three drop and one drop.  Tell me what you think.

4 x Diregraf Ghoul
4 x Treacherous Pit-Dewller
4 x Dark Impostor
4 x Demonlord of Ashmouth
2 x Dread Slaver
2 x Harvester of Souls

2 x Killing Wave
3 x Dismember
4 x Tragic Slip
2 x Go for the Throat
2 x Doom Blade

4 x Torpor Orb

23 x Swamp

Sideboard:
2 x Memoricide
3 x Surgical Extraction
2 x Triumph of Cruelty
2 x Tribute to Hunger
4 x Distress
2 x Go for the Throat
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