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1 year ago ::
May 02, 2012 - 4:28PM
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How does Final Fortune  work with Hive Mind  in play if you cast it on your own turn with 4 other players? What orders do the turns happen in? What if you cast it on an opponent's turn instead?
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1 year ago ::
May 02, 2012 - 4:31PM
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Date Joined:
Jun 24, 2003
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Regardless of whose turn it is, your original Final Fortune will resolve last, so your extra turn will be taken first.
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1 year ago ::
May 02, 2012 - 4:41PM
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Nov 11, 2009
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And then the person who normally takes their turn after me will get to take their extra turn next?
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1 year ago ::
May 02, 2012 - 4:46PM
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Date Joined:
Oct 29, 2007
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yep (assuming it's cast on your turn, if not, see next post) and assuming no one dies for other reasons on those extra turns and there's no Platinum Angel  or Sundial  shenanigans the player to your right will likely win
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1 year ago ::
May 02, 2012 - 4:46PM
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Date Joined:
Jun 24, 2003
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And then the person who normally takes their turn after me will get to take their extra turn next?
For the rest of the players, it does depend on whose turn you play the Final Fortune. When Hive Mind's ability resolves, each other player puts their copy of Final Fortune on the stack, beginning with the active player (the player whose turn it is).
The Final Fortunes resolve in reverse order, and then the extra turns are taken in reverse order from that, which is the order they were originally put on the stack.
So, if you play the Final Fortune on your turn, after you take your extra turn, the player who normally takes their turn after you takes their extra turn next, followed by the remaining players in turn order.
If you play the Final Fortune on another player's turn, after you take your extra turn, that player takes their extra turn next, followed by the remaining players in turn order.
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1 year ago ::
May 02, 2012 - 5:04PM
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Date Joined:
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Hilarious. You can totally decide who wins the game, so long as it's not yourself.
Barring shenanigans.
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1 year ago ::
May 02, 2012 - 5:06PM
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Date Joined:
Jul 28, 2010
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Pact of the Titan  and friends are also fun with Hive Mind and in that case you are last to lose, assuming your friends don't have the correct mana
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1 year ago ::
May 02, 2012 - 9:28PM
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Date Joined:
Oct 18, 2009
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How does Final Fortune work with Hive Mind in play if you cast it on your own turn with 4 other players? What orders do the turns happen in?
What if you cast it on an opponent's turn instead?
If you waited for each of the copies to resolve and then cancel  led the original spell, wouldn't you win? (Assuming of course, someone didn't win on their extra turn.)
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1 year ago ::
May 03, 2012 - 12:23AM
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Date Joined:
Mar 10, 2010
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Well, yes... But good luck not having your opponents cancel your cancel with one of their copies...
Of course there are ways to counter spells without using instants or sorceries, right Mystic Snake  and Lulzmage  ?
Sean Stackhouse
Level Two Judge (Yay!)
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