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1 year ago  ::  Apr 30, 2012 - 6:09AM #11
Jahikoi
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If you have your Tracker target a creature, and choose your [red creature] to fight their [blue creature], and the blue creatures gets protection from red, the fight will still go through even though the red creature doesn't deal any damage to the blue one (but the blue one damages the red one). Protection stops targeting of abilities from green sources, but doesn't stop anything to do with the red creature.
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 30, 2012 - 6:20AM #12
Enigma256
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Apr 30, 2012 -- 6:05AM, Chaikov wrote:

(but I believe Deathtouch doesn't really affect things)


yes, that was an error on my part
forgot that SBA are not checked during resolution

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 30, 2012 - 7:44AM #13
TimmyBee
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So does fight count as 'Combat Damage'? i'm sure this would be relevent to some cards, but none spring to mind...
From what i have read, i would guess not - its damage, done by the creatures, but not combat damage
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 30, 2012 - 7:49AM #14
Bowshewicz
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Correct, damage from fight doesn't count as combat damage.
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 30, 2012 - 8:02AM #15
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Apr 30, 2012 -- 7:44AM, TimmyBee wrote:

So does fight count as 'Combat Damage'? i'm sure this would be relevent to some cards, but none spring to mind...
From what i have read, i would guess not - its damage, done by the creatures, but not combat damage




Fight is not combat, therefore damage from Fighting is not considered combat damage.


If you want examples, a fighting Creepy Doll would not flip-a-coin-to-destroy, and Fog doesn't prevent the fight damage.

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 30, 2012 - 8:36AM #16
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You have the right to read the rules, you know...

701.10. Fight
701.10a A spell or ability may instruct a creature to fight another creature or it may instruct two creatures to fight each other. Each of those creatures deals damage equal to its power to the other creature.
701.10b If a creature instructed to fight is no longer on the battlefield or is no longer a creature, no damage is dealt. If a creature is an illegal target for a resolving spell or ability that instructs it to fight, no damage is dealt.
701.10c If a creature fights itself, it deals damage equal to its power to itself twice.
701.10d The damage dealt when a creature fights isn’t combat damage.




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1 year ago  ::  May 13, 2012 - 11:50PM #17
BobamusPrime
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Since this is not actually combat, Could you make an opponent's tapped creature fight one of your creatures?
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1 year ago  ::  May 14, 2012 - 12:11AM #18
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Yes.
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1 year ago  ::  May 14, 2012 - 3:58AM #19
Gruxxar
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Here's something I don't get and find very confusing:  If you attack with another creature, let's say a 2/2.  It get's blocked by a 4/4.  Can you use Ulvenwald to now make the 2/2 "fight" the 4/4 again?  So combat damage would deal 2 strikes to the 4/4.  Then the fight mechanic would deal another 2 strikes for a total of 4?
Would this result in both creatures dying?  Or is this an example of an "illegal" scenario?
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1 year ago  ::  May 14, 2012 - 4:00AM #20
Enigma256
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it will die while fighting and will not deal any combat damage

or it will die because of combat damage and can not be used for fighting


what you describe would have worked before the M10 rules changes.
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