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1 year ago ::
May 04, 2012 - 4:55PM
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99.5% of Helvaults contained stuff barely worth $50 in total. The remaining 0.5% contained stuff worth $5,000-10,000 each.
Really?
I mean, I don't have an accurate count of what was in each Helvault. But these numbers seem a little off.
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1 year ago ::
May 04, 2012 - 5:21PM
#242
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99.5% of Helvaults contained stuff barely worth $50 in total. The remaining 0.5% contained stuff worth $5,000-10,000 each.
Really?
I mean, I don't have an accurate count of what was in each Helvault. But these numbers seem a little off.
So far as the actual VALUE of the premium helvaults, that is correct, we don't exactly know.
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1 year ago ::
May 04, 2012 - 5:58PM
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Well, going by current prices...
Regular Helvault
54 Oversized EDH Cards @ roughly $0.75 each = $40.50
162 Double Sided Tokens @ roughly $0.10 each = $16.20
54 Spin-down Die @ roughly $0.10 each = $5.40
Grand total of a regular Helvault: $62.10
Special Helvault
54 Oversized Foil EDH Cards @ roughly $180 each = $9,720
162 Foil Double Sided Tokens @ roughly $80 each = $12,960
54 Spin-down Die @ roughly $0.10 each = $5.40
54 Judge Promos @ roughly $100 each = $5,400
Grand total of a special Helvault: $28,085.40
So yeah, going by current prices the special helvaults had just a -little- more value in them. Also, I'd like to point out that the price of the Foil EDH Cards and the Foil Tokens has been rising exponentially since last Sunday. So the price of the special Helvaults will more than likely increase even more over the next few weeks.
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1 year ago ::
May 04, 2012 - 6:50PM
#244
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Well, going by current prices...
Regular Helvault
54 Oversized EDH Cards @ roughly $0.75 each = $40.50
162 Double Sided Tokens @ roughly $0.10 each = $16.20
54 Spin-down Die @ roughly $0.10 each = $5.40
Grand total of a regular Helvault: $62.10
Special Helvault
54 Oversized Foil EDH Cards @ roughly $180 each = $9,720
162 Foil Double Sided Tokens @ roughly $80 each = $12,960
54 Spin-down Die @ roughly $0.10 each = $5.40
54 Judge Promos @ roughly $100 each = $5,400
Grand total of a special Helvault: $28,085.40
So yeah, going by current prices the special helvaults had just a -little- more value in them. Also, I'd like to point out that the price of the Foil EDH Cards and the Foil Tokens has been rising exponentially since last Sunday. So the price of the special Helvaults will more than likely increase even more over the next few weeks.
Not taking any side as I didn't go, but just wanted to chime in, your numbers are way, way, off for the special helvault. Frist of all, no one is going to pay $180 for the oversized foils, even if they are listed at that. Wait a week for the hype to die down and they're easily going for $20 a pop at best. Next, I just want to say, on a similar note, no one is paying $80 dollars for a token even if they are listed at that. Plus, some helvaults had $100 each promos, but many had promos with lesser value, so thats probably another incorrect stat, depending on contents.
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1 year ago ::
May 04, 2012 - 7:23PM
#245
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162 Foil Double Sided Tokens @ roughly $80 each = $12,960
$80 for a foil double sided foil token? I'm sorry, but I find it very difficult to believe that any Magic player that has played this game for any substantial amount of time would pay Tarmogoyf  type dollars on a token. Even n00bs that find that they can't cast cards with no mana cost would shy away from paying such an amount for a token card.
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Disregard women acquire chase rares.
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How;s a 2 drop 1/2, Flying broken? What am I missing?
You're missing it because *turns Storm Crows sideways* all your base are belong to Chuck Norris and every other overused meme ever.
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1 year ago ::
May 04, 2012 - 7:55PM
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Well, this guy has sold a pair of foil tokens on eBay for $75 with 'Buy It Now' auctions. www.ebay.com/itm/FOIL-double-sided-Angel...I don't see $80 as being far fetched. The oversized Avacyn on bid now is almost $200: www.ebay.com/itm/Mtg-magic-1x-FOIL-overs...The Judge promos are what vary, anywhere from $10-$120 each depending on what was included. This was so unfair on so many levels, and the word 'sorry' has yet to be heard from WotC. Later, Don!
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1 year ago ::
May 04, 2012 - 8:04PM
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Just rechecked, my prices are accurate. Hell, I even checked eBay to see what people were bidding. Multiple Foil Tokens are being bid on right not at roughly $80. As for Foil EDH cards, the only one up anymore is ONE Avacyn, at $175. And this is where you guys are making the mistake, players aren't buying them, collectors are. Only .5% of Helvaults contained these items. Most collectors are buying them and then locking them away somewhere. The supply is decreasing, and steadily throughout the week more collectors have found out about these (and continue to find out) thus leading to an increasing demand. Also, remember that these were only released in the US. Collectors from every other country are trying to get these currently too. With such a high demand, the prices aren't going down anytime soon.
@monoredburn
I know some are less than $100, but some were also more so I took a rough guess at $100. Variation is there, but it's not alot.
Edit: I just checked, and Don is right. The only Foil EDH card is now up to $200. So, my prices are spot on, except the variation in the promos, like I said.
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1 year ago ::
May 04, 2012 - 8:07PM
#248
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... gosh.
I was just getting free stuff, so I tried to make the best of it. I didn't know that so many dollars were being made off this stuff through eBay.
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Disregard women acquire chase rares.
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How;s a 2 drop 1/2, Flying broken? What am I missing?
You're missing it because *turns Storm Crows sideways* all your base are belong to Chuck Norris and every other overused meme ever.
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1 year ago ::
May 04, 2012 - 8:31PM
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@Justterrorit
I know. MANY people on here didn't know, that's why I posted the table. And I've read your posts, and can completely see the point you were making. It's just you need to understand, WotC basically gave the people in 30 events the money to build a good legacy deck, multiple modern decks, or the ability to be competitive in standard for at least 1 -2 years. Or hell, save it or just use it to buy something else that you want. Everyone else got a thank you gift. The massive difference is what has people riled up, not the actual Helvaults themselves.
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1 year ago ::
May 04, 2012 - 8:42PM
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It's just you need to understand, WotC basically gave the people in 30 events the money to build a good legacy deck, multiple modern decks, or the ability to be competitive in standard for at least 1 -2 years. Or hell, save it or just use it to buy something else that you want. Everyone else got a thank you gift. The massive difference is what has people riled up, not the actual Helvaults themselves.
I see.
But it could be because I did not realize how hyped this whole thing was. I mentioned in the thread I created that I had called Super Games, which is the store I normally go to for prereleases. The person I talked to mentioned that perhaps there was a lot more hype put out than what was provided.
I'm starting to see that now. Even in light of the fact that I totally missed the hype.
Did WotC **** up with all the hype? I don't know; I missed it. Did they **** up in general with this whole Helvault thing? I can't be the judge of that, but I am starting to see why people feel shammed.
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Disregard women acquire chase rares.
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How;s a 2 drop 1/2, Flying broken? What am I missing?
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