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1 year ago ::
Apr 29, 2012 - 8:07AM
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Out of curiosity, what are those oversized cards found inside the helvault (I already know about the tokens and dice)? I keep hearing the legends found in Avacyn Restored but are there more of them? 
They were the trio of angels (known to some as "the Powerpuff girls"), Avacyn, and the demon. I traded my large Avacyn for a large Sigura because I wanted her for a potential Commander deck.
Thanks! 
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1 year ago ::
Apr 29, 2012 - 8:44AM
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I was dissapointed as well with the Helvault. The first event I did it was ok. Got some different looking tokens and a spindown. The oversized cards was no big deal. But getting the same thing from a different Helvault at the same store for a different event was very dissapointing.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 29, 2012 - 8:48AM
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Kereminde, the fact that these cards existed in helvaults is actually now fairly well known, let me try looking up some Google stuff for you that may help ease the skepticism.
It's like complaining that some people got Power 9 and Duals from Zendikar boosters.
No, it **really** is not - in my opinion of course.
In Zendikar, we KNEW there would be old cards as bonuses, AND we knew they were not in every pack, with really good ones being even more rare, and we KNEW not everybody had a chance, but unlike this, the chance was CONSISTENT [as in every booster box having the same odds] - and WELL ANNOUNCED. It wasn't like only 5% of the boxes had an old card in them [and even fewer having a power 9], and that wasn't made clear, which is more analogous to the Helvault situation again IMO.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 29, 2012 - 8:56AM
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At first I was happy about the Helvault because I don't like to complain about free stuff. However, I hate seeing that a select few stores got Judge promo cards in addition to everything else. I just don't understand why this happened. Why should some stores get better prizes than others? Why the favoritism for certain stores?
All this pre-release has done is make me lose faith in the pre-release prizes. I didn't care much for the $1 or so worth of product that I received from the vault, but knowing that some people received cards that are actually playable in a sanctioned event just makes me feel shafted. No ihss, you don't get usable cards, only the lucky people do.
Note: I'm not complaining simply because I didn't get one of the promos. I'm complaining because even if I had gotten one, a majority of the players wouldn't have. I'd rather have no pre-release bonuses than unequal bonuses.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 29, 2012 - 9:31AM
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I am exceedingly skeptical of claims of these "Special Helvaults".
Yeah, it's not like the oversized cards and the tokens were foiled in these vaults. I mean, how easy would that be to check
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1 year ago ::
Apr 29, 2012 - 9:33AM
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Some Helvaults had 54 copies of foil promos ranging from Judge Balance, Judge Demonic Tutor, Judge Decree of Justice, Exalted Angel and Wrath of God.
In these Helvaults, the oversized cards and the tokens were foil.
So...yeah.
Honestly, this just makes it worse. So the winner of one event gets some random tokens and the 54th placing person at one across town gets a judge foil of a vintage card?
It's like complaining that some people got Power 9 and Duals from Zendikar boosters.
It really isnt...
Everyone had a chance to get those Zendikar hidden treasures. You can buy boosters anywhere, you can order them online, etc. This event was entirely dependent on what store you went to. If you dont live near one of the stores that got one of the ridiculous helvaults sent to them, you were just out of luck.
I dont see how they are at all comparable.
It makes sense. They put out a larger number of regular Helvaults because they knew some would be cracked. They changed up the super secret cards because they didn't want uniformity and they'd rather surprise some people over no people.
Why not just put something half decent in every helvault instead of sending super huge $$$$$ helvaults out to certain select stores and leaving everyone else with garbage?
The only people who like this kind of surprise are the ones that get selected to recieve it. So a small fraction of their customers are really happy now. That sounds like a bad idea from a business perspective.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 29, 2012 - 9:36AM
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Guys the people who didn't get judge promos didn't pay for them. Those who did didn't pay either, but we shouldn't hold it agains them.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 29, 2012 - 9:40AM
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Guys the people who didn't get judge promos didn't pay for them. Those who did didn't pay either, but we shouldn't hold it agains them.
Wait, what?
I don't get what you're trying to say.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 29, 2012 - 9:51AM
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Guys the people who didn't get judge promos didn't pay for them. Those who did didn't pay either, but we shouldn't hold it agains them.
Totally... I mean, if WOTC started reprinting P9, but only handing them out to friends and family of WOTC employees... that would be totally ok. I mean, they didnt pay for them, and we didnt pay for them either...
Of course we shouldnt hold it against the people who got the judge promos, they just went to the right store. We should hold it against WOTC.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 29, 2012 - 9:54AM
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Guys the people who didn't get judge promos didn't pay for them. Those who did didn't pay either, but we shouldn't hold it agains them.
I don't think anyone is angry at the people that actually got the promos, just at WotC for allowing this kind of distribution to occur.
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