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1 year ago  ::  May 08, 2012 - 11:47PM #111
willpell
Date Joined: Feb 26, 2004
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Those lands are gorgeous.  The art is the one aspect of the game which still manages to avoid disappointing me three times out of four.

So, I had to lie about my age to get into the survey for this set, that's always a good sign when they don't care about the opinions of mature and reasonable adults who've played their game for over a decade.  And it was hilariously obvious what they wanted to try and prove; when it came to the questions about why you play games, every single set of options included either "quick to play" or "easy to learn" as an option, and in most cases they were both there along with one other option, which was usually the one I'd pick even if there had been other choices.  Brand continues its reign of tyranny over both the creative minds of the rest of Wotco and the allowances of the world's teenagers; nobody is allowed to prefer a deep strategy game anymore, there isn't enough profit in a long-term appeal.  Sadly, this survey didn't include any text boxes so I had no opportunity to vent about what utterly boring and uninspiring mechanics this set revolves around (soulbond is the worst, but Miracle isn't much better and is being hyped a lot more).  No godbook either, though that's just as well as I'm not sure I could have found three cards in this godawful set to consider favorites, nor limited myself to only three picks for the worst.

But at least the Modo cube has one aspect that appeals to me.

My New Phyrexia Writing Credits
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As far as the benefit of the rest of Magic is concerned, gold cards in Legends were executed perfectly. They got all the excitement a designer could hope out of a splashy new mechanic without using up any of the valuable design space. Truly amazing.
--Aaron Forsythe's Random Card Comment on Kei Takahashi

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1 year ago  ::  May 09, 2012 - 5:37AM #112
sketchesofpayne
Date Joined: Apr 26, 2005
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I don't get why they're commissioning new art for cards they'll never reprint.  Seems like a waste of time and resources just for online cube drafting.  Especially since a dual land is cool, but not going to be a major draft pick.  It comes off as being a tease.

As much as I'd like it if they printed these I don't see that happening.  People throw a royal fit when the value of their cards is threatened.  I hate that these cards doomed to have their old art and only be possessed by those willing to spend $30+ on a single card.
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1 year ago  ::  May 09, 2012 - 6:44AM #113
alecfuu
Date Joined: Apr 14, 2012
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May 9, 2012 -- 5:37AM, sketchesofpayne wrote:

I don't get why they're commissioning new art for cards they'll never reprint.  Seems like a waste of time and resources just for online cube drafting.  Especially since a dual land is cool, but not going to be a major draft pick.  It comes off as being a tease.

As much as I'd like it if they printed these I don't see that happening.  People throw a royal fit when the value of their cards is threatened.  I hate that these cards doomed to have their old art and only be possessed by those willing to spend $30+ on a single card.




$30+? More like a $100+ these days and who knows how much more in a couple of years... WOTC should reevaluate the RL and reprint the Legacy staples in some shape or form before we are looking at a $1000+ playset of Underground Seas (hint: not too long from now).

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1 year ago  ::  May 09, 2012 - 9:05AM #114
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May 9, 2012 -- 6:44AM, alecfuu wrote:

...before we are looking at a $1000+ playset of Underground Seas (hint: not too long from now).


Didn't that happen a couple years ago?

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1 year ago  ::  May 09, 2012 - 9:41AM #115
4wallz
Date Joined: Apr 28, 2009
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May 8, 2012 -- 2:17PM, Saidin311 wrote:

May 8, 2012 -- 7:48AM, JDawg13 wrote:

I'm sorry, but those Event Decks seem terrible.  The black deck is fine, but would have been infinitely more appropriate to release as a Dark Ascension Event Deck, when people were actually actively trying to get ahold of Gravecrawlers, Messengers and Lashwrithes. 

The UW Humans deck looks really unfocused, not very powerful, and not good at showing off the potential of the new set.  A WR Humans deck featuring things like Lightning Mauler, Accorder Paladin, Gather the Townfolk, Goldnight Commander, Thatcher Revolt, Riot Ringleader, etc, with maybe a Champion of the Parish and a Hellrider as some of the rares would have worked brilliantly.




I'm torn. I don't think they represent AVR at all. However I want to buy both the decks simply for the availability of the cards inside them. Metamorphs get sucked up pretty quick in my local store, and no one wants to trade gravecrawlers or messengers. Though I think they any zombie deck is a bit weaker with terminus in the mix.

Picking up both nets a pretty solid set of cards and you get a couple bonuses like a playset of Dismembers and a playset of Fiend Hunters. Both cards are a bit over rated but always seem to find homes somewhere.




I'm with you.  The decks aren't great.  If they really wanted to make the black deck a viable option, they should've thrown in 3 of either Geralf's or Gravecrawler.  So neither deck is exciting to me in the least.  
That being said though, card value in the set is high.  You will be able to pick up the event decks for like $40 for both.  And you are getting well over that in value of cards. 
If I do purchase them, I will be doing it for trade value alone.

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1 year ago  ::  May 09, 2012 - 11:54AM #116
Senyuno
Date Joined: Jun 21, 2010
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Yeah, the value is quite high, you get pleeeenty over $25. I'm glad that's the case, instead of there being one reprint cash deck and the other being only fair, modest, or meager. However, 2 Glacial Fortress does annoy me enough to pass on that deck (not to mention PMetamorph, whom I hate with a passion).

I don't know why it's taken them months to finally make the zombie event deck, and in an angel set of all places! But I can't ignore the value of it considering how long I've been wanting to make the deck. It's a fine shell to start work on, my patience has been rewarded.
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1 year ago  ::  May 09, 2012 - 12:00PM #117
Flyheight
Date Joined: Jan 19, 2010
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May 8, 2012 -- 6:41AM, Carnubak wrote:

Hmmm... Could the theme for the COTD be...
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Arnold Schwarzenegger movies (Predator, Commando)? I expect Terminate to appear there soon.
 



It's looking like you're spot on.  Nice call.
I wonder if one of the last two cards will be
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Kindercatch for Kindergarten Cop, or Recall for Total Recall?
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the0uroboros asked: How in the same set can we have a hexproof, unsacrificable(not a word) creature AND a land that makes it uncounterable. How does this lead to interactive play?

I believe I’m able to play my creature and you have to deal with it is much more interactive than you counter my creature.
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1 year ago  ::  May 09, 2012 - 4:17PM #118
Al-Khowarizmi
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I'm really surprised Gavin said what he did about using Recurring Nightmare to get multiple uses out of Academy Rector .  I hope that's not what the guy piloting the deck was doing, because that's not how Rector works...
I'm Mike, from The Mana Pool
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1 year ago  ::  May 09, 2012 - 8:10PM #119
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May 9, 2012 -- 4:17PM, Al-Khowarizmi wrote:

I hope that's not what the guy piloting the deck was doing, because that's not how Rector works...


If anything, it's a testament to how grossly unintuitive engineered 'cripple-fixes' like Rector end up being.

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1 year ago  ::  May 09, 2012 - 8:51PM #120
Al-Khowarizmi
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I'm pretty sure there are tons of cards that have triggered abilities with optional costs in the middle, so I don't see what's unintuitive about it.
I'm Mike, from The Mana Pool
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