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1 year ago  ::  Apr 26, 2012 - 1:42PM #1
GoblinGravy
Date Joined: Apr 20, 2011
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For these, I'd like to go RW humans and U or UB artifacts. The theme is that the humans made the machines, but they developed a mind of their own. The humans have red for stuff like shatter and manic vandal . I don't want to include any artifacts in the man deck, but make that the focus of machines. Lots of artifact creatures, too. I have most of the man deck finished; thoughts? Also, I'm incliuding AVR stuff


 


Man’s revolt


1 Aggravate


1 Demolish


1 Kessig Malcontents


1 Kruin Striker


Riot ringleader


2 Thatcher revolt


1 Devout Chaplain


1 manic vandal


1 Thraben valiant


1 Accorder Paladin


1 Angelfire Crusader


1 Oblivion Ring


1 FIreball


2 Gather the townsfolk


2 Auriok Transfixer


1 Benalish Knight


1 Blinding Mage


1 Boros Guildmage


1 Boros Swiftblade


1 Mentor of the Meek  


1 Champion of the parish


1 Children of Korlis


2 Devout Monk


1 Elder Cathar


2 Elite Vanguard


 


 



Machine Takeover


1 Solemn simulacrum  

May 12, 2012 -- 12:52PM, ChainedNBeaten wrote:

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 26, 2012 - 10:13PM #2
Paleopaladin
Date Joined: Mar 17, 2010
Posts: 270
Shouldn't this be in future speculation...or something?  It's fun, I guess so no harm. :-)

Man looks aggro...do you want the machines to be more control or also aggro?  I'll post a mix of both, I guess:

Go for the Throat
Mishra's Factory
Adaptive Automaton
Tumble Magnet
Darksteel Colossus
Icy Manipulator
Thoughtcast
Wrench Mind
Essence Scatter
Welding Jar
Darksteel Plate
Assembly Worker
Ratchet Bomb (might be a LITTLE unfair to the humans...)


I didn't include phyrexian mana stuff (even though Porcelain Legionnaire and Thundering Tanadon work deliciously as "evil robots") because I don't know if creatures with such an obvious world-specific flavor make sense here.  Myr were excluded too because they're too adorable to be believable menaces.  I'm torn about Memnarch
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 27, 2012 - 1:16PM #3
Manite
Date Joined: Mar 21, 2012
Posts: 1,167
Ratchet Bomb is unfair to the humans? I mean, sure, the DC takes to play, but if and once it does hit the field the humans have no means of countering it.

MARCH. OF. THE. MACHINES. Might also want to consider Mycosynth Lattice . But those two make a dangerous combo. There's also Kuldotha Forgemaster and Golem Artisan . Memnite makes a good metal minion, especially if you use Memnarch. Memnarch is a little too world-specific if you ask me though, plus he's been dead for years and is a Legendary, at which point it would only seem fair to give the humans a Legendary to rally behind as well.

Cool idea, GG. Now I have my own ideas for duel decks.

   
   
   
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 27, 2012 - 3:33PM #4
GM_Champion
Date Joined: Oct 10, 2011
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To match the flavor of your development (and the criteria you're desiring) you've pretty much limited your options to Tezzeret alone. You've yet to complete your Man's Revolt side of the development. You don't have to go with a planeswalker for the lead role, but if you put one on either side, you could put one on both sides. Defense Grid and Crawlspace would be nice to see for the human's side. 

If you want a hint in the right direction (development-wise and business-wise), designs like Phyrexian Walker , Ornithopter , and Memnite all come second place to Shield Sphere . Anything artifact with x in it's cost is good with Metalworker (who is also a chase rare from that time). Copper Gnomes is a much better substitute for the cliché Tinker . Things like Wall of Junk are very interesting and useful. 

If you must go blue/black, Caltrops and Death Pits of Rath makes an interesting enough combo. Same goes for Ashnod's Altar + Cathodion or Su-Chi to a colorless veer or in combination with something like Death Cloud + Lich's Mirror .

Just do some research and go all the way back to the beginning of time, that way you can provide a decent range for both sides. That kind of content is also appealing to player's, both nostalgic one's who love old content, and newborn one's who never got a chance to experience old content.

If you want a graphic example, they had a contest a long time ago (2009) for duel decks here on the forum. Here are two links to the decks I submitted: Boros Vs. Rakdos. I'm not even really a Ravinca fan, but I had good alternate artwork for both the characters. Also, I was able to think up a theme for both sides almost instantly. Boros is red-white aggro with a splash of anti-black/red and Rakdos is black-red hand, board, and land destruction.
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 27, 2012 - 3:43PM #5
GM_Champion
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I forgot to mention Ashnod's Transmogrant . I've always thought of it as a very solid design, specially in limited. It can work wonders making artifacts out of splashed non-artifact creatures.
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 28, 2012 - 2:04AM #6
Paleopaladin
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By the way, if I didn't mention yet, I want to say how awesome this idea for a duel deck is!  I hope WotC actually makes it someday!
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 28, 2012 - 7:35AM #7
Elzaban_the_Ethereal
Date Joined: Oct 24, 2002
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Here are some rough attempts at these decks, trying to steer clear of ground covered by previous R/W aggro and U/X artifact theme decks. They make them pretty frequently. I put equipment in with Man because they seem to need it to get there, and equipment isn't really "the machine" (which here is mostly giant robots and things with "engine" or "machine" or "station" in their name.)

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Machine Show
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 29, 2012 - 9:58AM #8
Paleopaladin
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Mycosynth Golemn is a BRILLIANT choice for the "foil top card display" for the machines!  Much more fair than my choice of darksteel collossus!  I really like Darksteel Sentinel in there as well!   Amass the Components is also brilliant!

Your deckslist is definitely better than mine, but, I do really, really want the machines to have Go for the Throat -- with new art, of course! :-)

Apr 28, 2012 -- 7:35AM, Elzaban_the_Ethereal wrote:

Here are some rough attempts at these decks, trying to steer clear of ground covered by previous R/W aggro and U/X artifact theme decks. They make them pretty frequently. I put equipment in with Man because they seem to need it to get there, and equipment isn't really "the machine" (which here is mostly giant robots and things with "engine" or "machine" or "station" in their name.)

Man Show


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1 year ago  ::  Apr 29, 2012 - 12:24PM #9
GM_Champion
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Phylactery Lich is a strong artifact black design for the machine side.
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 29, 2012 - 1:25PM #10
Manite
Date Joined: Mar 21, 2012
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Apr 29, 2012 -- 9:58AM, Paleopaladin wrote:

Mycosynth Golemn is a BRILLIANT choice for the "foil top card display" for the machines!  Much more fair than my choice of darksteel collossus!  I really like Darksteel Sentinnel in there as well!   Amass the Components is also brilliant!

Your deckslist is definitely better than mine, but, I do really, really want the machines to have Go for the Throat -- with new art, of course! :-)


Perhaps a golem holding a human by the throat at arm's length?

Apr 29, 2012 -- 12:24PM, GM_Champion wrote:

Phylactery Lich is a strong artifact black design for the machine side.


But does he fit the theme of the deck?


   
   
   
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