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1 year ago  ::  May 09, 2012 - 8:31AM #141
Shamsiel
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Many werewolves were evil wantons as well.

Also, in spite of their purpose, there were both evil and good spirits in and . Only two geists were actually good, both from Innistrad; the remaning ones in Dark Ascension were all very evil, and there's two geists in Avacyn Restored, both either neutral, or with Moonlight Geist being implied as being evil and the spectral guards as good.

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1 year ago  ::  May 09, 2012 - 10:04AM #142
jedi123
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May 9, 2012 -- 8:31AM, Shamsiel wrote:

Many werewolves were evil wantons as well.

Also, in spite of their purpose, there were both evil and good spirits in and . Only two geists were actually good, both from Innistrad; the remaning ones in Dark Ascension were all very evil, and there's two geists in Avacyn Restored, both either neutral, or with Moonlight Geist being implied as being evil and the spectral guards as good.




The intent was white were good blue were evil. 

Dark ascension was monsters going crazy, so all monsters were evil.

I got nothing on avacyn restored. 


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1 year ago  ::  May 09, 2012 - 1:14PM #143
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Oh **** Brady did a thread during one of my leaves? This makes me sad .
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1 year ago  ::  May 09, 2012 - 1:34PM #144
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May 9, 2012 -- 10:04AM, jedi123 wrote:

May 9, 2012 -- 8:31AM, Shamsiel wrote:

Many werewolves were evil wantons as well.

Also, in spite of their purpose, there were both evil and good spirits in and . Only two geists were actually good, both from Innistrad; the remaning ones in Dark Ascension were all very evil, and there's two geists in Avacyn Restored, both either neutral, or with Moonlight Geist being implied as being evil and the spectral guards as good.




The intent was white were good blue were evil. 

Dark ascension was monsters going crazy, so all monsters were evil.

I got nothing on avacyn restored. 




But, again, they failed at " geists = good" when only two were unambiguousy benevolent.

I'm not complaining; I'm just afraid a bunch of ghosts are the last villains. 


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1 year ago  ::  May 10, 2012 - 1:47AM #145
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Well, if you want I could write a short story of Ajani stealing candy from a baby.  Would that help?


I know that this kind of pushes on the no spoilers line, but while being as vague as is necessary, are there any -active- plans for white villains in upcoming blocks of unspecified date/time/name/gender?
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1 year ago  ::  May 10, 2012 - 4:00PM #146
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Okay, a few questions for my eternally "Sometime soon" attempt to homebrew a Multiverse D&D campaign

1) Planeswalkers (even modern ones) are supposed to be immune to Phyrexian Oil Compleation.  Why is this so?
2) Compleation can (or at least could) be achieved by means other than the Oil (seeing as the oil didn't exist way back when) -- are modern planeswalkers unable to be compleated by any means (Surgical, etc)?
3) Do planeswalkers have any other notable resistances or Immunities (Say, to diseases, poisons, or maladies physical or spiritual) other than to Oil and/or means of Compleation?
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1 year ago  ::  May 10, 2012 - 7:41PM #147
Jerig
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May 10, 2012 -- 4:00PM, Tevish_Szat wrote:


1) Planeswalkers (even modern ones) are supposed to be immune to Phyrexian Oil Compleation.  Why is this so?
2) Compleation can (or at least could) be achieved by means other than the Oil (seeing as the oil didn't exist way back when) -- are modern planeswalkers unable to be compleated by any means (Surgical, etc)?
3) Do planeswalkers have any other notable resistances or Immunities (Say, to diseases, poisons, or maladies physical or spiritual) other than to Oil and/or means of Compleation?




1) Planeswalkers are immune to the oil because fo the nature of the Spark. The Spark, when ignited, acts as an anchor for the will and being of the person in question. This is why they survive the turmoil of raw potential as it exists in the Blind Eternieies. The Spark anchors the mind of the persona nd prevents the oil from corruptin gtheir being and bending their will toward that of the phyrexians.

2) The oil has always existed. In the old books it is the life blood of the compleated phyrexians and even the newts smelled of it on their breath constantly. Unless the victim of the contagion is placed within a vat to be compleated the contageon within the oil would just kill them, as seen in the Invasion.

3) Planeswalkers are only 'immune' as they are able a modicum of control over their physical forms by way of their magic. They heal rapidly and can purge their physical bodies of physical manifistations pretty well (as long as they know the spells required). Some magical forms of damage are harder to purge (as Garuuk found out from Lilliana).

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1 year ago  ::  May 10, 2012 - 7:50PM #148
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May 10, 2012 -- 7:41PM, Jerig wrote:

1) Planeswalkers are immune to the oil because fo the nature of the Spark. The Spark, when ignited, acts as an anchor for the will and being of the person in question. This is why they survive the turmoil of raw potential as it exists in the Blind Eternieies. The Spark anchors the mind of the persona nd prevents the oil from corruptin gtheir being and bending their will toward that of the phyrexians.




Planeswalkers have changed since the mending. Tevish is asking why modern planesawlkers (who are flesh and blood) are still immune to the oil.

3) Planeswalkers are only 'immune' as they are able a modicum of control over their physical forms by way of their magic. They heal rapidly and can purge their physical bodies of physical manifistations pretty well (as long as they know the spells required). Some magical forms of damage are harder to purge (as Garuuk found out from Lilliana).




Yet all Planeswalkers are immune to Phyrexian oil. It isn't "some planeswalkers are immune" or "all planeswalkers are immune" it is "all planeswalkers are immune."

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1 year ago  ::  May 10, 2012 - 8:00PM #149
Jerig
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May 10, 2012 -- 7:50PM, Skibo_the_first wrote:


Planeswalkers have changed since the mending. Tevish is asking why modern planesawlkers (who are flesh and blood) are still immune to the oil.

Yet all Planeswalkers are immune to Phyrexian oil. It isn't "some planeswalkers are immune" or "all planeswalkers are immune" it is "all planeswalkers are immune."




They are immune because they still have the Spark. The nature of the Spark has only been changed insofar as it is no longer a source of mana in and of itself for the Planeswalker to draw on and utilize. Their physical form is their own, not a manifistation of will, but it is still protected by their mental shield the Spark provides (hence their 'walking ability). They have to maintain that physical form, but nothing that would alter their will will corrupt it (In effect the story 'walkers became more akin to how we players are - aging, living, metabolizing "planeswalkers" within the game).
We're immune from the Oil's effects, but after too much exposure we have to leave the duel and recover. This is the purge. I'd hate to be affected by something in a duel where my next bouts I have that same effect on me...

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1 year ago  ::  May 10, 2012 - 9:39PM #150
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May 10, 2012 -- 7:41PM, Jerig wrote:

1) Planeswalkers are immune to the oil because fo the nature of the Spark. The Spark, when ignited, acts as an anchor for the will and being of the person in question. This is why they survive the turmoil of raw potential as it exists in the Blind Eternieies. The Spark anchors the mind of the persona nd prevents the oil from corruptin gtheir being and bending their will toward that of the phyrexians.

2) The oil has always existed. In the old books it is the life blood of the compleated phyrexians and even the newts smelled of it on their breath constantly. Unless the victim of the contagion is placed within a vat to be compleated the contageon within the oil would just kill them, as seen in the Invasion.

3) Planeswalkers are only 'immune' as they are able a modicum of control over their physical forms by way of their magic. They heal rapidly and can purge their physical bodies of physical manifistations pretty well (as long as they know the spells required). Some magical forms of damage are harder to purge (as Garuuk found out from Lilliana).



Now normally I'm not one to bandy this about but: Sources.
I want to see sources for these claims. Not your interpretation, but solid sources for this information.

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