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1 year ago  ::  May 03, 2012 - 11:32AM #21
greenmage
Date Joined: Jun 21, 2006
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summoner's pact seems way better than fauna shaman. It nets you mana (obivous), draw (don't know what strikes your fancy ... regal force ? nantuko cultivator ? primordial sage ?) and fierce empath (doubleplusgood). Paying the 4 mana upkeep shouldn't be an issue at all.


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1 year ago  ::  May 03, 2012 - 1:00PM #22
igri_is_a_bk
Date Joined: Sep 13, 2008
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No way is Summoner's Pact better than Fauna Shaman. It can't find Griffin. It doesn't have any synergy with Vengevine or Quirion Ranger either. If I were to use any non-creature tutor, it'd be Chord of Calling .

Extract is an interesting card here. It's four additional copies of Griffin for one mana.

Edit:
Spoils of the Vault naming Food Chain is also pretty hot tech. If you exile a Griffin, you just tutored both pieces of the combo for one mana. 
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1 year ago  ::  May 03, 2012 - 1:29PM #23
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Pact worked very well though when I did my tinkering with food chain a few years ago. Like I said, it nets you mana, draw and even win condition (working with fierce empath). It works early to mid combo too. Chord of calling is very weak in comparison. It only works when you are in an awesome position (lots and lots of mana) anyway.

Haha, yes, extract is a funny little trick! Spoils should work well too.

Fauna shaman is very slow and it always has a bullseye on it. I've played the card lots of times, and only when I was very lucky I got to activate it. However, depends on meta. Maybe yours doesn't punish such plays as quickly as mine.

I might get around to tinker with my list again because of griffin. Maybe this time I'll be able to get decent speed and consistency.

If I do, I'll probably run ancient tomb s too for extra speed. Cloud of faeries might find a place too. Ah, so many ideas, so little deck space!


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1 year ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 10:04AM #24
igri_is_a_bk
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Okay, here's the combo oriented list I'm testing.

4 Misty Rainforest
2 Verdant Catacombs
1 Polluted Delta
2 Tropical Island
2 Bayou
1 Underground Sea
3 Forest
3 Island
1 Swamp
1 Phyrexian Tower

4 Cabal Therapy
4 Food Chain
4 Intuition
 
4 Birds of Paradise
2 Noble Hierarch
4 Veteran Explorer
3 Misthollow Griffin
3 Vendilion Clique
1 Eternal Witness
3 Vengevine
3 Fierce Empath
1 AEthersnipe
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
3 Maga, Traitor to Mortals

I tried Wordly Tutor and I thought it sucked. It was just as slow as Fauna Shaman, but only a one-shot effect. I don't think GSZ, Summoner's Pact, or Chord of Calling are going to be good enough here. I also tried Extract, but found that you can't use more than one of them, and that was just too random for me. It's too narrow of a card anyways. 
I've been splitting games with most opponents. I haven't had the opportunity to play many established decks yet though.
Edit:
Spoils is taking away too much life too often. I'm dropping it for Intuition so I'll update the list.
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1 year ago  ::  May 05, 2012 - 2:20AM #25
greenmage
Date Joined: Jun 21, 2006
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I didn't quite get it to click yet. It's still much too slow for my tastes. I expect solid turn 3 wins.

However, I found ancient tomb to be quite useful. It makes it very easy to cast early intuition and/or food chains. The 8 mana dudes are often not sufficient. Draws with no mana dude in hand are very slow, so the ancient tomb helps with this problem too.

What I don't like aboutb the concept is how food chain is basically a three card combo. You need chain, draw and a good mana source to get anywhere.

GSZ and Chord are really bad, I agree. Still think summoner's pact is quite good but I'm still deciding on the targets.

Isn't show and tell hurtful for the combo? It's a completely dead draw when in chain mode. Unless you play cloud of faeries or another "untap lands" critter. Then you could generate some mana to cast it.


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