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1 year ago ::
Apr 18, 2012 - 3:06PM
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This thread is for discussion of this week's From the Lab article, which goes live Thursday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 18, 2012 - 9:10PM
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And.... another useless rare for standard. Awesome for EDH though.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 18, 2012 - 9:41PM
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1 year ago ::
Apr 18, 2012 - 9:50PM
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So not only is it grossly overcosted, but won't turn the opponent's guys into a Kobold, outside of Donate shenanigans.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 18, 2012 - 10:35PM
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Oh hello Keiga, the Tide Star  . What's that? You want to clear their board? Hmm okay. Oh sorry Yosei, the Morning Star  , I didn't see you there. Yes yes, I know you want to annoy them for forgetting about you too. Ack, I'm so sorry Kokusho, the Evening Star  ! Please don't hurt me. I can only hope we see another cycle like these dragons some day.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 18, 2012 - 11:10PM
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It probably says something about me that this is the first card I'm actually semi-excited for from this set. It's janky enough to actually be affordable (price-wise; I refuse to spend more than about 5 bucks on 'most any card, and that only for the ones that are really necessary for my deck), and it seems almost good enough to be playable in Standard. Yeah, yeah, the card sucks, I know, but it's *almost* there. Shave 2 mana off of this and it'd be pretty insane, shave one mana off and it might see play.
It's still probably not enough to get me to play Constructed (haven't played that since...around the time Rise of the Eldrazi came out, I think), but maybe, just maybe, if I can scrounge up enough creatures with good CIP effects, and a few bombs to top the curve...eh, probably not, but maybe. I do sort of wish they'd shaved a mana off, though. It's not like it'd have been too overpowered at 5 rather than 6.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 18, 2012 - 11:57PM
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1 year ago ::
Apr 19, 2012 - 12:52AM
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Finally a use for Cylian Sunsinger  !!! Yeah color-intensive four color deck.... Cool card though but one of those that it's so complicated that ppl would make so many errors forgetting what is what... Awesome for MTGO, though!
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1 year ago ::
Apr 19, 2012 - 2:06AM
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How about putting it on any of the mass token producers like Myr Battlesphere or Deranged Hermit? I'd be happy to play a BoP and get 5 creatures for 1 mana.. You could end up with a sizable army of stupidly large squirrels in a very short period of time, or simply attack once with the myr and insta-gib your opponent.
Diregraf Captain: You reallllllllly don't want any of my creatures to die if this happens.. Drogskol Captain: Hexproof army of very large flyers heading your way.
Noxious Ghoul + Zombie Infestation = an instant speed, repeatable, one-sided board wipe that gets around protection/indestructibility..
Dare I say Priest of Titania? How about teaming it up with Craterhoof Behemoth O_O;; (I can see excessively large trampling armies heading my way.) Also from AVR, Soul of the Harvest: You could very quickly draw out your deck and have a bunch of 6/6 tramplers with this.
Drop it onto a Sun Titan and rez your entire graveyard every time you play a creature or attack.
Patron Wizard = Opponent rereads this card, then concedes XD
Grand Architect + 2 CC artifact creatures = MASSIVE amounts of mana to spend on artifact spells/abilities.
Playing against POD? Drop this on your opponent's Elesh Norn, and wipe his board plus Elesh dies to legend rule.
For some severely headache inducement, try animating an artifact/enchantment and turn your creatures into copies of those >_<;; (EX: Animate Mindslaver > every elf you play becomes a turn your opponent doesn't play lol)
The only thing I can see holding this card back IS the casting cost.. 5U is a bit high for an easily countered spell but it does seem like it could be fun, and there may be some way yet to be revealed to cheat it into play sooner, so let's not give up on it just yet. ^^
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1 year ago ::
Apr 19, 2012 - 3:13AM
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How about putting it on any of the mass token producers like Myr Battlesphere or Deranged Hermit? I'd be happy to play a BoP and get 5 creatures for 1 mana.. You could end up with a sizable army of stupidly large squirrels in a very short period of time, or simply attack once with the myr and insta-gib your opponent.
Diregraf Captain: You reallllllllly don't want any of my creatures to die if this happens.. Drogskol Captain: Hexproof army of very large flyers heading your way.
Noxious Ghoul + Zombie Infestation = an instant speed, repeatable, one-sided board wipe that gets around protection/indestructibility..
Dare I say Priest of Titania? How about teaming it up with Craterhoof Behemoth O_O;; (I can see excessively large trampling armies heading my way.) Also from AVR, Soul of the Harvest: You could very quickly draw out your deck and have a bunch of 6/6 tramplers with this.
Drop it onto a Sun Titan and rez your entire graveyard every time you play a creature or attack.
Patron Wizard = Opponent rereads this card, then concedes XD
Grand Architect + 2 CC artifact creatures = MASSIVE amounts of mana to spend on artifact spells/abilities.
Playing against POD? Drop this on your opponent's Elesh Norn, and wipe his board plus Elesh dies to legend rule.
For some severely headache inducement, try animating an artifact/enchantment and turn your creatures into copies of those >_<;; ex:="" animate="" mindslaver=""> every elf you play becomes a turn your opponent doesn't play lol)
The only thing I can see holding this card back IS the casting cost.. 5U is a bit high for an easily countered spell but it does seem like it could be fun, and there may be some way yet to be revealed to cheat it into play sooner, so let's not give up on it just yet. ^^
Some of those don't work. No matter how many Patron Wizard  s you have, you can only activate one Patron Wizard's ability for each Wizard you have, so you get no benefit beyond what you would normally get for having a Patron Wizard and a bunch of Wizards. Ditto for Grand Architect  . Mindslaver  is legendary, so you would also need a Mirror Gallery  to make it work, at which point you would have a combo consisting of 4 expensive cards.
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