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1 year ago ::
Apr 18, 2012 - 3:02PM
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Top Decks article, which goes live Thursday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 18, 2012 - 9:43PM
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The first card you've drawn on your opponent's turn is (no surprise here) ye olde Terminus. You miracle it for [one white mana] and set your opponent to shaking a fist at you like a grumpy old man and you are a playful (if mischievous) tyke who just put a baseball through the old man's back window.
Except you can't play it on your opponent's turn without help; it's a Sorcery.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 18, 2012 - 9:47PM
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Except you can't play it on your opponent's turn without help; it's a Sorcery.
Yes, you can. It's part of the Miracle gimmick.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 18, 2012 - 9:48PM
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@colvincd You're wrong about that. From the article on Avacyn Restored mechanics: "As you draw an instant or sorcery with miracle, if it's the first card you've drawn this turn, you can immediately reveal it. When you do so, you may cast it for its miracle cost. It doesn't matter whether it's an instant or sorcery; if you choose to cast it, you do so right away, even if it's at a time (such as your draw step) when you couldn't normally cast it." www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.a...
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1 year ago ::
Apr 18, 2012 - 9:48PM
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Oops, guess I better go read the rules.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 18, 2012 - 9:49PM
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Except you can't play it on your opponent's turn without help; it's a Sorcery.
LoL, if that were the case topdecking most miracle spells during your Draw Phase would be useless.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 18, 2012 - 10:05PM
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This is interesting. Generally, sweeper effects a case where timing really matters. With a timewalk, it's great when I have attackers or land drops, but worst case it's free cycling. When dealing 5 damage to the face, decks that do that are fine whenever it comes. But a sweeper is not something you can cast "whenever". However, in past environments with fewer creatures and an abundance of Wraths, they're often promoted to the role of a single-target removal. And I think that's what they're trying to sculpt here. Mike's probably right on the 5-8 slots, but definite potential.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 18, 2012 - 10:07PM
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Oops, guess I better go read the rules.
Don't feel bad. Madness was similarly confusing back when it came out.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 18, 2012 - 11:07PM
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Apr 19, 2005
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Prediction: Thought Scour  will be a popular card in Miracle decks. One mana, instant speed drawing is good with Miracle and as a bonus, the effect is great against Ponder  in the mirror match.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 18, 2012 - 11:30PM
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This is interesting. Generally, sweeper effects a case where timing really matters.
With a timewalk, it's great when I have attackers or land drops, but worst case it's free cycling. When dealing 5 damage to the face, decks that do that are fine whenever it comes.
But a sweeper is not something you can cast "whenever". However, in past environments with fewer creatures and an abundance of Wraths, they're often promoted to the role of a single-target removal. And I think that's what they're trying to sculpt here. Mike's probably right on the 5-8 slots, but definite potential.
Yeah, this is exactly why I like this card. It's not an auto-miracle like most of the other miracles.
Zindaras' meta is like a fossil, ancient and its secrets yet to be uncovered. Only men of yore, long dead, knew of it.
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