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1 year ago  ::  Apr 16, 2012 - 3:36PM #11
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My Life From the Loam s are anthropomorphic bureaucrats that have hired Intuition as a company commuter service to shuttle cards in for work?
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 16, 2012 - 8:53PM #12
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The fundamental flaw here is that you're using a law of psychology in the workplace on a game of chance and measurement.  What you're trying to prove is that "synergistic decks can run more cards", which is inherently wrong because decksize and a deck that interacts with itself has little to do with each other. The only reason to play X amount of cards is because of fractal elements, and most players are simply most comfortable with a base fraction of x/60. I myself like to play 64 cards because the fraction is more comfortable with my preferred methods of play, this doesn't mean that I apply a beaurocratic concept to it in order to justify it, since plain math and a breakdown of how my cards springload a desired effect do that comfortably.


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1 year ago  ::  Apr 16, 2012 - 9:05PM #13
sage62
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This is a stretch even for you.....
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 16, 2012 - 9:12PM #14
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So what you're saying is that some cards = "officials" in the beaurocracy of your deck.  For example, Valakut, The Molten Pinnacle is an official that requires subordinates to function, so you add the cards it needs to do its thing, like Rampant Growth or Explore , and while powering out lands requires green, you may as well ramp into Primeval Titan , but it turns out that he is kind of his own official, and requires his own subordinates to come out in time.  Things like Overgrown Battlement , which really do nothing to directly finish the job Valakut has laid out.  This could continue on and on ad infinitum and ad nauseam until you may as well just add Battle of Wits , which of course would be another official and require a whole gang of subordinate tutors.

Luckily, we have stop-having-fun guys to remind us that having anything more than 60 cards in your deck is tantamount to being a rapist and anyone considering it should be strung up by their **** .
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 16, 2012 - 11:59PM #15
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UHHSAM:

You describe it pretty well.

The final paralel is that when society has to many bureaucrats it will revolt and cut down on the number of bureaucrats (Or in case of a company it simply goes bankrupt)

Same thing happens with decks that have become so "optimized" that no change in the design can improve it, and since the meta changes but the deck cannot, players try to restart the deck by going back to the drawingboard or simply stop playing it.
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 17, 2012 - 1:21AM #16
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Apr 16, 2012 -- 11:59PM, wickeddarkman wrote:

Same thing happens with decks that have become so "optimized" that no change in the design can improve it, and since the meta changes but the deck cannot, players try to restart the deck by going back to the drawingboard or simply stop playing it.


This is a contradiction in terms. A deck's efficiency depends on the metagame it is in. There is no such thing as a deck that is perfectly optimized no matter how the metagame changes; after all, not even mono-red burn can survive in a metagame full of lifegain unless it picks up a few new tricks.

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Apr 19, 2012 -- 5:36AM, prospector wrote:

Think of how Neo couldn't beat the robots, but they kept him around anyways to defeat Agent Smith. Sure, the robots might not like having a Neo running rampant because instead of playing their favorite 4 drop fatty robot, they have to play a bunch of one mana Matrixs to contain him, but at least Neo keeps Agent Smith from reanimating an Iona on turn two.

Jun 26, 2012 -- 3:07PM, GM_Champion wrote:

Are you saying I'm trying to blame my loss on something? I don't care that I lost, I care that he's a sore loser, and a cheater, and a liar.

Oct 5, 2012 -- 1:36PM, magicpablo666 wrote:

CKY, are you bad at anything?

Oct 25, 2012 -- 9:53PM, magicpablo666 wrote:

I really enjoy imagining this from Kevin's perspective. Because in Kevin's world, Rosewater actually reads everything he types. Mark is sitting there right now, reading this, and thinking "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled. . ." Or some such. He chuckles low, then clicks on "The Best Of KEVINSET" and says "Yes, this'll do just fine. A busty lady with banding who deals direct damage to Zones!? Why this will be the star of my next set, and no one will ever believe you Kevin." Then he closes his Macbook, so his servant may move it out of the way, while another servant puts a Fetal Richard Garfield Clone lathered in Steak Sauce in front of him. Then Mark Feasts.

I mean, In KevinWorld, Mark is reading the very words I'm typing as well. Heck, in KevinWorld maybe I am Mark.

Nov 9, 2012 -- 2:27PM, Exxile72 wrote:

I'm beginning to think CKY may be anime in real life...

Feb 11, 2013 -- 7:38AM, Jessica_Morgan wrote:

Don't go anywhere CKY, I need to crash dramatically through your window and propose marriage and I don't want you throwing off my paradrop.

Mar 15, 2013 -- 7:56AM, Knifethrower wrote:

[In response to a thread about how hard grading is]

Upon reading this, I've found myself completely unable to operate in the world.  I tried to decide what to eat for breakfast, and pondered the vast consequences of my choice.  How do I balance my dietary needs against my desire to eat good-tasting food? Should I factor in how long it takes to prepare?  Cereal is ready in moments, but bacon takes longer to cook.

Then there is the impact on other industries.  Do people in the cereal industry deserve to be employed more than people in the bacon industry?  Which industry should I support? I don't even have the data regarding HOW MUCH the cereal industry benefits from me eating a bowl of cereal, or how much the bacon industry benefits from me eating a side of bacon.  How can I compare two qualities I can't even quantify?

And let's not forget the milk on the cereal.  In addition to determining whether or not milk is healthy for me, how much that benefits the milk industry, and how much the people in the milk industry deserve my support, we have to factor in the fact that cows are put under brutal conditions in order to collect thier milk.  Of course, the same goes for the pigs, and then they get killed.  Of course, I really like bacon.  So I need to come up with a scale that compares the value of cow happiness to pig happiness to my happiness.  What trade-offs am I willing to make here?  Does the fact that the pig gets put out of its misery count as a plus or a minus?  Isn't bacon bad for me anyway?

Deciding what to eat for breakfast (or any meal) is impossible.  Help me!

Apr 11, 2013 -- 6:15AM, altimis wrote:

I must admit chinkeeyong, you have the most interesting character ideas; and you play them well.

Apr 12, 2013 -- 7:13PM, magicpablo666 wrote:

Anyway, you'd be surprised about Time Stop. When I first saw that card as a relatively new player I didn't see its full potential until I read the reminder text. Is it that unintuitive, though? Mine I mean. What is possibility? Is it possible for me to type these words with my tusks? No, because I don't have tusks. Although I am now tempted to go buy some - obviously not from poachers or whatever - and use them as typing apparatus. I could be the best secretary ever. "What's your words per minute sir?" "Well, only six, but I use these tusks to type them." "You're hired!" That was the interview. And is anyone else disappointed that "apparati" is not the plural form of apparatus? I just could strangle a dictionary, because "apparatuses" is a real word. I guess it sounds pretty cool. I'll call them my Apparatusks.

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 17, 2012 - 1:48AM #17
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How about a more logical supposition? Moore's Law vs. MtG?
(i.e. Power creep will double in MtG every 18 months)
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 17, 2012 - 6:28AM #18
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How about murphy's law, wmd keeps making those pointless topics and they are even more pointless then before
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 17, 2012 - 7:13AM #19
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Apr 16, 2012 -- 1:32PM, wickeddarkman wrote:

CHIN K EEYONG:

Well, since I support the concept of versatility versus consistency I have to say that having 1 theme in a deck is bad!

Take for instance burn vs thresh! Which do you think is more powerfull?



DRAGON_NUT:

Same question for you, sir!



I don't know enough about the format to say which deck would win in a matchup, by I do know that trying a burn strategy anywhere other than a burn deck is a sure way to run out of cards while the opponent still has plenty of life left and a powerful board position.

If you were trying to indicate that you should run Lightning Bolt in decks that aren't dedicated burn, that's kinda obvious. Lightning Bolt is possibly the best piece of red removal ever printed.

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 17, 2012 - 2:41PM #20
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DRAGON_NUT:

Burn is the roughly the same strategy and type of cards all the way through.

Thresh is more types of cards and not always the same strategy.
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