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1 year ago ::
Apr 17, 2012 - 9:36AM
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Let's not forget that the planeswalker (as currently written) has two abilities that can be activated at instant speed, which in and of itself is a very bad thing. Planeswalker (loyalty) abilities are restricted to sorcery speed and once per turn for a reason: they'd all be ridiculously broken otherwise. Yeah, I'd like to see a planeswalker eventually that has one ability that can be activated at instant speed (while still respecting the once per turn rule), but that ability would have to be really weak or else rarely relevant. Bouncing permanents is always relevant.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 17, 2012 - 9:44AM
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And then Norin became a baby 'Walker! Norin the Cautious  Planeswalker – Norin {+0}: Until the start of your next upkeep, if Norin would leave the battlefield, return him to your hand instead. {+1}: Put a trap counter on target land you control. Sacrifice a land with a trap counter on it: Norin deals 3 damage to target creature. {-7}: You gain an emblem with “Whenever a creature enters the battlefield under your control, you may have it deal damage equal to its power to target creature or player of your choice.” [2]
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1 year ago ::
Apr 17, 2012 - 10:07AM
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on a side note i am not using standard format when i built him legacy format is where i like to be so im making it for that. what if ability #2 was -2 instead? and as for ultimate like i said im not sure what the wording would need to be to bounce him to your hand but only allowing it once from that ability as was my intent
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1 year ago ::
Apr 17, 2012 - 10:09AM
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And then Norin became a baby 'Walker!
Norin the Cautious
Planeswalker – Norin
{+0}: Until the start of your next upkeep, if Norin would leave the battlefield, return him to your hand instead.
{+1}: Put a trap counter on target land you control. For as long as you control Norin, you may sacrifice a land with a trap counter on it any time you could cast an instant. If you do, Norin deals 3 damage to target creature.
{-7}: You gain an emblem with “Whenever a creature enters the battlefield under your control, you may have it deal damage equal to its power to target creature or player. of your choice”
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For the second ability, I was assuming you didn't want to immediately sac the land you put the trap counter on. If you did, then ignore the bolded changes. For the ultimate, "of your choice" is unnecessary since you're choosing the targets anyways (you control and own the emblem, therefore all instances of you on it refer to you, its controller/owner). If instead the word "target" was "a" (as in "a creature or player") then "of your choice" would be relevant.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 17, 2012 - 10:32AM
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oops....edit broke my post!
You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - The most famous of which is "never get involved in an thread with GM_Champion" - but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go in against AzureShade when card design is on the line!
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1 year ago ::
Apr 17, 2012 - 11:08AM
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Thanks for the corrections. That's more in line to what I was shooting for.
I just thought of an alternative method for the trap lands: instead of having it as part of the + ability (thus creating redundant copies of the "sac a land" ability), you could have the ability sit on a fourth line by itself: "Sacrifice a land with a trap counter on it: Norin deals 3 damage to target creature or player." I'm not sure if such an ability should reside at the top or at the bottom, but Garruk Relentless  has shown that planeswalkers need not have only loyalty abilities.
Also, you wouldn't need to specify when you could activate it since only loyalty abilities have the inherent sorcery speed and once per turn rule.
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Oh, but wait, there were multiple answers that fit my thoughts to some questions. What colors did they say I was?
I am Blue/Green
I am both rational and instinctive. I value self-knowledge and understanding of the world; my ultimate goal is self-improvement and improvement of the world around me. At best, I am focused and methodical; at worst, I am obsessive and amoral.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 17, 2012 - 11:18AM
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That actually makes even more sense....fixing! Norin the Cautious Planeswalker – Norin You may sacrifice a land with a trap counter on it. If you do, Norin deals 3 damage to target creature. {+0}: Until the start of your next upkeep, if Norin would leave the battlefield, return him to your hand instead. {+1}: Put a trap counter on target land you control. {-7}: You gain an emblem with “Whenever a creature enters the battlefield under your control, you may have it deal damage equal to its power to target creature or player. [2] Bonus, he combos somewhat with Trap Digger  , who was the semi-inspiration for his trapping ability.
You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - The most famous of which is "never get involved in an thread with GM_Champion" - but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go in against AzureShade when card design is on the line!
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1 year ago ::
Apr 17, 2012 - 4:13PM
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on a side note i am not using standard format when i built him legacy format is where i like to be so im making it for that.
I thought the power 9 is banned from legacy.
what if ability #2 was -2 instead? and as for ultimate like i said im not sure what the wording would need to be to bounce him to your hand but only allowing it once from that ability as was my intent
It's a silent departure  every single turn for the same price... you can remove the -1 and the ultimate both and it would still be insanely broken.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 17, 2012 - 4:37PM
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That actually makes even more sense....fixing!
Norin the Cautious
Planeswalker – Norin
You may sacrifice a land with a trap counter on it. If you do, Norin deals 3 damage to target creature.
{+0}: Until the start of your next upkeep, if Norin would leave the battlefield, return him to your hand instead.
{+1}: Put a trap counter on target land you control.
{-7}: You gain an emblem with “Whenever a creature enters the battlefield under your control, you may have it deal damage equal to its power to target creature or player.
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Bonus, he combos somewhat with Trap Digger , who was the semi-inspiration for his trapping ability.
I like it... seems balanced... the ultimate is good, maybe bit wordy, but still not as much as karn's  . The only flaw I can find is that the +0 wouldn't be used much since people would just put traps on all their lands to get to the ultimate. Anyway it's a good card with no balance issues I can find.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 18, 2012 - 6:06AM
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The only flaw I can find is that the +0 wouldn't be used much since people would just put traps on all their lands to get to the ultimate.
My goal with the +0 ability was to reflect Norin's ability to bounce himself and maybe offer some evasion protection if you think your opponent is going to be gunning for him on their turn. The trap counters stay around anyway so you're not really losing anything other than the ability to sacrifice them on the turns that Norin is hiding in your hand.
You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - The most famous of which is "never get involved in an thread with GM_Champion" - but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go in against AzureShade when card design is on the line!
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