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1 year ago ::
Apr 11, 2012 - 7:34PM
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Would you be angry if they chose some word other than "Mill" for the keyword?
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1 year ago ::
Apr 11, 2012 - 7:57PM
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I would be angry if they did choose "mill."
"Forget" all the way, baby!
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1 year ago ::
Apr 11, 2012 - 8:06PM
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It's clearly an action, like "Scry", so I'm for Forget Memory Sluice   Sorcery Target player Forgets 4 Conspire Yeah, sounds good.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 11, 2012 - 8:09PM
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I prefer "forgets 4 cards." But that works too.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 11, 2012 - 8:36PM
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I think its probably better for everyone's sanity that they just leave it as it is.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 11, 2012 - 11:27PM
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- Celestial Teapots are broken!
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It's clearly an action, like "Scry", so I'm for Forget
Scry is an interesting case. Originally, it was a keyword ability, but it was then changed to a keyword action without getting a new template (aside from a period). I think this was a mistake. While keywords can have a numerical parameter (as seen on graft, suspend, etc.), it doesn't make sense for actions. Right now, you're told to "scry 2". I think it would make much more sense if you were told to "scry two cards".
I'd be in favor of the same treatment for milling. Memory Sluice would say "Target player [verb]s four cards." I don't really have a strong opinion for which verb they should use. "Mill" has the advantage of already being the accepted colloquial term, but I think that would quickly change if any official term was introduced.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 12, 2012 - 2:20AM
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If they used anything other than "Mill", they'd be fighting the players.
The phrase 'mill' is so ubiquitous in the language of players that it would be nonsensical to go against their expectation, even if there are words that are "better" in terms of grammar or flavour.
It's really not even about giving niche cards to black.
It should be about giving black cards to Niche.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 12, 2012 - 2:45AM
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I would be disappointed, but not particularly surprised, and certainly not angry. They've said multiple times that they don't want to use 'mill', and they have perfectly understandable reasons for that, even if I happen to disagree with those reasons.
But as adeyke said, it needs to be an action of the form, "{Player} {verb}s {number of} cards"--if they didn't use that templating, that's what I'd get irritated about. I still wouldn't really be outright angry, but irritated? Hell yes.
And so people say to me, "How do I know if a word is real?" You know, anyone who's read a children's book knows that love makes things real. If you love a word, use it! That makes it real. Being in the dictionary is an artificial distinction; it doesn't make the word any more real than any other word. If you love a word, it becomes real.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 12, 2012 - 4:26AM
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- Celestial Teapots are broken!
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If they used anything other than "Mill", they'd be fighting the players.
The phrase 'mill' is so ubiquitous in the language of players that it would be nonsensical to go against their expectation, even if there are words that are "better" in terms of grammar or flavour.
I'm really not convinced that would be a major problem. There would almost certainly be some initial backlash ("Not naming it 'mill' will ruin Magic forever, so I quit!"), but that happens with everything. I think once the new card starts appearing on cards and in articles, it'll also get adopted by the playerbase. I think M10's "battlefield" and "exile" show that such terminology change can work.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 12, 2012 - 5:46AM
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"M:tG player's thoughts on Mill keyword"
 "No, no! Don't mill me! Mil is already in my name."
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