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1 year ago  ::  Apr 23, 2012 - 11:00AM #71
Gamma-Mage
Date Joined: May 8, 2009
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Yeah, it was expectations built up by the PAX panel and the Planeswalker's Guide that haven't paid off. If they had said 'but there are very few wolfir cards' and 'the gryff are incredibly rare creatures, so much so that there's only one gryff rider in the set', I think I would be less disappointed.

That said, the angels are really great for the most part. The set seems to be targeted at angel-lovers like me. And it pulls this off really, really well. There are a total of two angels I don't think are awesome - Archangel (that's the reperint they chooose? Really?) and Voice of the Provinces (which is a common angel, and I those are rather difficult to make). Most of them are going into my Angels EDH deck - yes, even the little common Seraph of Dawn .

But, I think it was also supposed to make fans of demons happy. And...well, I don't really know what I'm talking about here....so I won't try to say if it succeeds at that or not.
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 23, 2012 - 11:30AM #72
Yxoque
Date Joined: Nov 25, 2009
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For someone who mostly (almost exclusively) plays Blue there's isn't that much that excites me. 


And I think they might have overdone it on the Angels. Every third white cards is (or depicts) an Angel.

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May 8, 2013 -- 4:42PM, mjeremyjarvis wrote:

May 8, 2013 -- 4:33PM, Yxoque wrote:



Hell, if they steal from us, we'd be honored.



oh my god, AWESOME!
Then changing the Slivers was your idea! haha
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 23, 2012 - 12:20PM #73
Moppi
Date Joined: Jan 27, 2006
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Apr 23, 2012 -- 11:00AM, Gamma-Mage wrote:

Yeah, it was expectations built up by the PAX panel and the Planeswalker's Guide that haven't paid off. If they had said 'but there are very few wolfir cards' and 'the gryff are incredibly rare creatures, so much so that there's only one gryff rider in the set', I think I would be less disappointed.

That said, the angels are really great for the most part. The set seems to be targeted at angel-lovers like me. And it pulls this off really, really well. There are a total of two angels I don't think are awesome - Archangel (that's the reperint they chooose? Really?) and Voice of the Provinces (which is a common angel, and I those are rather difficult to make). Most of them are going into my Angels EDH deck - yes, even the little common Seraph of Dawn .

But, I think it was also supposed to make fans of demons happy. And...well, I don't really know what I'm talking about here....so I won't try to say if it succeeds at that or not.





Being an angel-lover myself I am loving all the angel cards and the angel related arts (I'm going to be poor with this set!) but I do feel that they could've given the other elements some spot. Like maybe 1 or 2 more cards for the gryffs and the Wolfir, it feels a bit of a waste.

And who knows if they're going to give additional backgrounds, closure, or links to the other parts of the flavor that seemed real lacking (i.e. Where the heck was Sorin in all of the events leading to AVR? What's going to be the flat out end to this set?)

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 23, 2012 - 12:32PM #74
Vektor480
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I too think they have overdone the angel thing. I mean, sure, Angel set and all, but still... while browsing the white cards, i couldn't help it but sight and mutter "huh, another angel..."

Thing is that they had so much more flavor space!
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Jan 14, 2012 -- 5:42PM, Vektor480 wrote:

I like storm crow because I really like crows in real life, as an animal, and the card isn't terribly stupid, but packs a good deal of nostalgia and also a chunck of the game's history. So it's perhaps one of the cards I have most affection to, but not because "lol storm crow is bad hurr hurr durr".


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Mar 17, 2011 -- 10:28PM, Qmark wrote:

Mar 17, 2011 -- 10:15PM, ROBRAM89 wrote:

Although I do assume you deliberately refer to them (DCI) as The Grand Imperial Convocation of Evil just for the purposes of making them sound like an ancient and terrible conspiracy.

Now, now.
1994 doesn't quite qualify as "ancient".


Oct 11, 2011 -- 9:43PM, Tevish_Szat wrote:

Oh, it's a brilliant plan.  You see, Bolas was travelling through shadowmoor, causing trouble, when he saw a Wickerbough Elder with its stylin' dead scarecrow hat.  Now, Bolas being Bolas took the awesome hat and he put it on his head, but even with all his titanic powers of magic he couldn't make it fit.  He grabbed some more scarecrows, but then a little kithkin girl asked if he was trying to build a toupee.  "BY ALL THE POWERS IN THE MULTIVERSE!" he roared, "I WILL HAVE A HAT WORTHY OF MY GLORY." and so he went through his Dark Lore of Doom (tm) looking for something he could make into a hat that would look as stylish on him as a scarecrow does on a treefolk.  He thought about the Phyrexians, but they were covered in goopy oil that would make his nonexistant hair greasy.  He Tried out angels for a while but they didn't sit quite right.  Then, he looked under "e" (because in the Elder Draconic alphabet, "e" for Eldrazi is right next to "h" for Hat) in his Dark Lore of Doom and saw depictions of the Eldrazi, and all their forms.
"THIS SHALL BE MY HAT!" he declared, poking a picture of Emrakul, "AND WITH IT I WILL USHER IN A NEW AGE OF DARKNESS -- ER, I MEAN A NEW AGE OF FASHION!"

And so Nicol Bolas masterminded the release of the Eldrazi.


Feb 25, 2012 -- 2:54PM, Mown wrote:

Rhox War Monk just flips pancakes, and if games have told us anything, it's that food = life.


Jul 11, 2011 -- 10:47PM, Qmark wrote:

Jul 11, 2011 -- 10:36PM, SleetFox wrote:

This thread has gotten creepy.  XP

Really?
Really?

The last couple days have been roughly every perverse fetish imaginable, but it only got "creepy" when speculation on Mother of Runes's mob affiliation came up?


Jun 26, 2011 -- 5:52AM, MrQuizzles wrote:

Jun 26, 2011 -- 4:59AM, Mown wrote:

Jun 26, 2011 -- 4:44AM, skeindubh wrote:


4 tropical island
4 savannah
4 bayou
4 taiga
4 savannah


Nice mana base.
Not really.



Yeah, really. If my deck was going to cost $1000+, I'd at least make it good.


May 2, 2011 -- 8:18AM, desolation_masticore wrote:

I like to think up what I consider clever names for my decks, only later to be laughed at by my wife. It kills me a little on the inside, but thats what marriage is about.


Apr 3, 2011 -- 1:39AM, DrWorm wrote:

Apr 3, 2011 -- 12:02AM, crazysamaritan wrote:

Of course, the best use [of tolaria west ] is transmuting for the real Tolaria.



Absolutely.  I used to loose to my buddy's Banding deck for ages, it was then that I found out about Tolaria , and I was finally able win my first game.


Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:17PM, Maraxas-of-Keld wrote:

WOAH

wait wait wait

Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:07PM, RPJesus wrote:

You know, being shallow and jusdgmental aside, "I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people"



Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:07PM, RPJesus wrote:

"I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people"



Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:07PM, RPJesus wrote:

Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates



Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:07PM, RPJesus wrote:

Jon infiltrated



OH MY GOD


Nov 22, 2011 -- 3:52PM, Pontiac wrote:

The only way I'd cast this card is into a bonfire.


Oct 10, 2011 -- 8:55PM, Glasir wrote:

The short answer is that there's no rule barring annoying people from posting, but there a rule barring us from harassing them about it.


Jan 21, 2011 -- 7:11AM, Qmark wrote:


Browbeat is a card that is an appropriate deck choice when there's no better idea available.
"No better idea available" was pretty much the running theme of Odyssey era.


Jul 10, 2012 -- 11:28AM, Dragon_Nut wrote:

Or perhaps it was a more straightforward comment indicating a wish for you to be bitten (Perhaps repeatedly) by a small yet highly venomous arachnid.



Aug 3, 2011 -- 6:46PM, ChaosLight wrote:

You're an idiot, and I'm in no mood for silliness.


Oct 10, 2011 -- 7:30PM, Vektor480 wrote:

Oct 10, 2011 -- 5:53PM, Rubik wrote:

You just... Vektor it.


That's the answer to everything.


Jan 17, 2011 -- 6:16PM, Maraxas-of-Keld wrote:

Jan 17, 2011 -- 5:58PM, Ragnarokio wrote:


I think the problem is that you don't exist.


This would sound great out of context!


Dec 19, 2011 -- 9:07PM, Dilleux_Lepaire wrote:

Modern is like playing a new tournament every time : you build a deck, you win with it, don't bother keeping it. Just build another, its key pieces will get banned.


Aug 4, 2011 -- 2:15PM, Mown wrote:

Aug 4, 2011 -- 1:45PM, Suudsu2200 wrote:


I specifically remember posting a thread when I was just a witty bitty noob.


You make it sound like that's still not the case.


Jan 4, 2011 -- 3:04AM, Niklor wrote:

Rap is what happens when the c from crap is taken away.


Doug Beyer:

But sometimes it's also challenging. Because sometimes OH MY GOD, WHAT THE HELL IS THIS THING?


Mar 20, 2012 -- 1:32PM, Terti wrote:

Flashforward five thousand years (Click for atmosphere) :


Aug 15, 2011 -- 8:06PM, Veslfen wrote:

to paraphrase Jeff Goldblum, Vektor finds a way.


Aug 1, 2011 -- 12:35AM, Ragnarokio wrote:

when in rome RAPE AND PILLAGE


Jan 31, 2012 -- 11:23AM, TchainT wrote:

I always find it helpful when im angry to dress up in an owl costume and rub pennies all over my body in front of a full body mirror next to the window.


Dymecoar:

Playing Magic without Blue is like sleeping without any sheets or blankets.  You can do it...but why?


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Me: "I love the moment when a control deck stabilizes. It feels so... right."
Omega137: "I like the life drop part until you get there, it's the MtG variant of bungee jumping"


Zigeif777:

Just do it like Yu-Gi-Oh or monkeys: throw all the crap you got at them and hope it works or else the by-standers (or opponents) just get dirty and pissed.


Apr 1, 2011 -- 10:29AM, JustTerrorIt wrote:

Apr 1, 2011 -- 10:09AM, quadibloc wrote:

It's true that Alpha and Beta didn't contain any cards like Tarmogoyf , Darksteel Colossus , or Platinum Angel . It just contained weak, insignificant cards like Black Lotus , Mox Sapphire , and Time Walk .


Normally it's difficult to pick up on your jokes/sarcasm. But this one's pretty much out there. Good progress. You have moved up to Humanoid. You'll be Human in no time.


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Sep 26, 2010 -- 5:06PM, NeoMint wrote:

I didn't know Samurai were known to be able to cut down whole armies...


They can when they're using lightsabers !


Sep 19, 2011 -- 11:59AM, Sebanovich wrote:

Sep 19, 2011 -- 11:54AM, Long_Con wrote:

My wife brought home a baby black squirrel they found on a horse track and cared for it for a few days.  We named it Grixis, but it died. 


Unearth it!


Jan 15, 2011 -- 8:07PM, Maraxas-of-Keld wrote:

I'm a Da Vinci Neurok.





And I'm on Magic Arcana. How about you?
Oh, by the way, I'm also on From the Lab now.
Twice, actually. And now with my own submited decklist!
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 23, 2012 - 1:33PM #75
Moppi
Date Joined: Jan 27, 2006
Posts: 427

Apr 23, 2012 -- 12:32PM, Vektor480 wrote:

I too think they have overdone the angel thing. I mean, sure, Angel set and all, but still... while browsing the white cards, i couldn't help it but sight and mutter "huh, another angel..."

Thing is that they had so much more flavor space!




On the flipside, if this is pretty much their answer to a FTV: Angels (which was a long time coming). Then better than nothing. :/

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 24, 2012 - 12:32AM #76
Gamma-Mage
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So...what we have here is a set that appeals only to people who love angels?

I didn't like Innistrad or Dark Ascension. I don't like zombies. I don't like vampires. I thought I liked werewolves, but....I didn't like the werewolves. So maybe they're making up to the people who don't like horror much?
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 24, 2012 - 12:59AM #77
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Apr 24, 2012 -- 12:32AM, Gamma-Mage wrote:

So...what we have here is a set that appeals only to people who love angels?



Not even that. I love Angels but they're still too heavily weighted towards Rares and Mythic Rares. I wanted some little Angels too, maybe a Defender Angel at common and an Angel Lord at uncommon, so you could build an all-Angel deck instead of being stuck with the humans.

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 24, 2012 - 1:22AM #78
mayamyth
Date Joined: Apr 3, 2006
Posts: 143

Apr 24, 2012 -- 12:32AM, Gamma-Mage wrote:

So...what we have here is a set that appeals only to people who love angels?

I didn't like Innistrad or Dark Ascension. I don't like zombies. I don't like vampires. I thought I liked werewolves, but....I didn't like the werewolves. So maybe they're making up to the people who don't like horror much?




I like werewolves and I liked the flavor of the various named werewolves (too bad we never saw a single one of them), but I didn't care for the transform mechanic they went with, particularly since being DFCs limited them so much numerically.

Then shafting the tribe entirely in the third set just put the final nail in the werewolf coffin.


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1 year ago  ::  Apr 24, 2012 - 2:02AM #79
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A grand total of two Wolfir creature cards, and no Legendary Tovolar card.

Werewolves are the Allies of Innistrad Block.

At least the two Wolfir creatures are beasts in limited.   
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