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1 year ago ::
Apr 11, 2012 - 1:10PM
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Sounds like wolfir really won't get to shapeshift. Oh well.
But the fact that being changed further was the option Avacyn gave repentants instead of being changed back means Avacyn either 1) cannot undo the lycanthropic curse, or 2) wants as many martial resources as she can get, at the cost of the safety of some individuals in her flock who aren't quite volunteering for duty. The first option would mean Innistradi lycanthropy is seriously powerful magic, which wouldn't be too unthinkable since the implication is that werewolves have been around longer than Avacyn or even Sorin, or that it might even be a function of the moon. The second option would mean Avacyn is either very enthusiastic to make up for lost time or sports a little of that militant Good is Not Nice side of White some people feared/hoped she would wield to be yet another threat for the humans.
Neither option explains why this was never an option before Avacyn was imprisoned.
"The truth resists simplicity." Some memorable quotes
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I know, as a good liberal scholar, that I'm supposed to respect every other belief and culture and what have you that comes along but... at the end of the day, when all is said and done, some things are just plain wrong.
Venser "Ah, Hello Myr. This is the King. Long Time no see. We thought today would be a good day for rolling. The Myr Battlesphere. The Myr. Where the first rolls and the second follows. Roll, roll, roll. For that purpose we went to the bother, the bother of fixing up Mirrodin. The King of the Multiverse going to the bother just for rolling a Myr Battlephere, just for that, we went to the bother."
Heard a joke once: Mare goes to doctor. Says she's depressed. Says life seems harsh and cruel. Says she feels all alone in a threatening world where even ponies you thought were your friends can't be trusted. Doctor says "Treatment is simple. Go to one of Pinkie Pie's great parties tonight. Party hard. That should pick you up." Mare bursts into tears. Says "But, doctor...I am Pinkie Pie." Good joke. Everypony laughs. Roll on snare drum. Curtains. Fade to black.
Sure, "the average person" might go see Transformers 3 if s/he wants a good story, but that doesn't stop people from making decent movies. Hell, they even managed to make Batman into a respectable movie. "The average" person might like American Idol or Jersey Shore, but people still made The Wire.
I think the people who would sit down and listen to a minstrel reciting Homer, or thought that novels were art, or read poetry were always a minority. It's a common viewpoint that art was better in the past because everyone's forgotten the bad stuff, while we haven't had time to forget the awful stuff that is current.
For almost all Magic fans, the "story" of Ravnica, for example, is that it's a city world with ten guilds -- yes, for most, that's a "story." All but a tiny fraction of the fan base are entirely unaware of an elaborate plot perpetrated by Augustin IV to trick Agrus Kos and Szadek into breaking the Guildpact, thereby enabling the Azorius to take control. Likewise, the vast majority of Magic players don't know who Harbin is, or Nivea, or Al-Hayat, or Feather, or Jared Carthalion, or Rebbec, or Zagorka ... the list goes on and on.
I'm pulling this out of nowhere and it has nothing like fact attached to it, but it cannot be disproven without breaking the fourth wall, and this is going to be my headcanon because it makes perfect sense.
I posit [Tamiyo, the Moon Sage] writes the Planeswalker's Guides to planes.
CANON is the collected events and details of a fictional work that come directly from its author or someone with equal authority to the author.
CANNON is a weapon that fires metal balls at a target, usually a structure or a crowd of enemy combatants.
Every time you confuse the two, I'm forced to break one of my own fingers.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 11, 2012 - 1:15PM
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Maybe it was an option, just one she didnt want to consider. Keep in mind, Avacyn had a very powerful tool before, the Helvault  , that she doesn't have anymore. She is incapable of ever "winning" now. She probably has to look towards her duty more pragmatically now because she doesn't have the option of sealing away enemies to strong to be killed.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 11, 2012 - 1:35PM
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Also note that the Flight of Herons is claimed to have been utilising magic frm the forests. They might have inspired Avacyn to meddle with non-  magic.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 11, 2012 - 5:35PM
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If the existence of werewolves, vampires, geists, and zombies was what was keeping the demons in check, maybe keeping the werewolves around would prevent them from running rampant like last time? Another way to cope with the lost Helvault.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 11, 2012 - 9:25PM
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OK they have now showen the 3 new mythic angels so maybe some Wolfir cards tomorrow. Also I think they might be a lot of soulbond in the Wolfir.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 13, 2012 - 9:20AM
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My guess is the Garden Hose theory: Avacyn's magic being blocked for so long led to a buildup--when she was released, all the pent-up magic from the months of her disappearance was released as well, creating a massive power surge. The excess power explains both why she's suddenly powerful enough to immediately swing the tide in humanity's favor and why she's creating Wolfir now when she didn't before. Also, I love how this is basically modified Banding. Such a fan of that.
No it's not. [/Rules Goob Twitch]
And so people say to me, "How do I know if a word is real?" You know, anyone who's read a children's book knows that love makes things real. If you love a word, use it! That makes it real. Being in the dictionary is an artificial distinction; it doesn't make the word any more real than any other word. If you love a word, it becomes real.
--Erin McKean, Redefining the Dictionary
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1 year ago ::
Apr 13, 2012 - 10:11AM
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How about the possibility that Sorin installed some extra gadgets and updated her software?
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1 year ago ::
Apr 13, 2012 - 1:43PM
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Also, I love how this is basically modified Banding. Such a fan of that.
No it's not. [/Rules Goob Twitch]
Actually... yes, yes it is. I know what you're getting at, but I really wasn't talking about how they function from a rules perspective. Conceptually, this is CLEARLY a descendent of Banding. The members of WotC that were at PAX actually are pretty open about that fact. So yeah, it isn't really mechanically related at all. But it still is basically modified Banding, because it is a variant of the same exact flavor.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 13, 2012 - 7:47PM
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It's interesting to see how the exact same flavor (these creatures are separate, but they can team up in combat) can be expressed with such deeply, fundamentally different mechanics. To Melvin banding and soulbond are so different as to not even be placed in the same category. To Vorthos one is the new version of the other.
"The truth resists simplicity." Some memorable quotes
Show
I know, as a good liberal scholar, that I'm supposed to respect every other belief and culture and what have you that comes along but... at the end of the day, when all is said and done, some things are just plain wrong.
Venser "Ah, Hello Myr. This is the King. Long Time no see. We thought today would be a good day for rolling. The Myr Battlesphere. The Myr. Where the first rolls and the second follows. Roll, roll, roll. For that purpose we went to the bother, the bother of fixing up Mirrodin. The King of the Multiverse going to the bother just for rolling a Myr Battlephere, just for that, we went to the bother."
Heard a joke once: Mare goes to doctor. Says she's depressed. Says life seems harsh and cruel. Says she feels all alone in a threatening world where even ponies you thought were your friends can't be trusted. Doctor says "Treatment is simple. Go to one of Pinkie Pie's great parties tonight. Party hard. That should pick you up." Mare bursts into tears. Says "But, doctor...I am Pinkie Pie." Good joke. Everypony laughs. Roll on snare drum. Curtains. Fade to black.
Sure, "the average person" might go see Transformers 3 if s/he wants a good story, but that doesn't stop people from making decent movies. Hell, they even managed to make Batman into a respectable movie. "The average" person might like American Idol or Jersey Shore, but people still made The Wire.
I think the people who would sit down and listen to a minstrel reciting Homer, or thought that novels were art, or read poetry were always a minority. It's a common viewpoint that art was better in the past because everyone's forgotten the bad stuff, while we haven't had time to forget the awful stuff that is current.
For almost all Magic fans, the "story" of Ravnica, for example, is that it's a city world with ten guilds -- yes, for most, that's a "story." All but a tiny fraction of the fan base are entirely unaware of an elaborate plot perpetrated by Augustin IV to trick Agrus Kos and Szadek into breaking the Guildpact, thereby enabling the Azorius to take control. Likewise, the vast majority of Magic players don't know who Harbin is, or Nivea, or Al-Hayat, or Feather, or Jared Carthalion, or Rebbec, or Zagorka ... the list goes on and on.
I'm pulling this out of nowhere and it has nothing like fact attached to it, but it cannot be disproven without breaking the fourth wall, and this is going to be my headcanon because it makes perfect sense.
I posit [Tamiyo, the Moon Sage] writes the Planeswalker's Guides to planes.
CANON is the collected events and details of a fictional work that come directly from its author or someone with equal authority to the author.
CANNON is a weapon that fires metal balls at a target, usually a structure or a crowd of enemy combatants.
Every time you confuse the two, I'm forced to break one of my own fingers.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 15, 2012 - 2:18PM
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So how did banding actually work, then? In our playgroup we errata'd it to duct tapeing up to one nonbander together and giving them all each other's abilities.
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