The reminder text doesn't have you reveal the card as you draw it so how can one verify that it was the first card drawn?
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Good question. You cast the card with the miracle cost as soon as you draw it, so assuming players hold their cards in one hand and draw with the other (I mean no disrespect to any one handed or armed players), one would draw a miracle card and then just put it down right away announcing the casting of the spell. It would seem extremely fishy to me to have someone draw a card, shuffle their hand a little, then say, "Oh, I want to cast Thunderous Wrath for its miracle cost."
Edit: Alright, what about this: When I play with Grave Titan , I usually represent my Zombie tokens with one token that has a die on it that represents how many of those tokens I have. The group of people I play with use similar methods for tokens, as it tends to keep the board free of clutter. However, it is completely up to my opponents to have me represent my tokens in a different way, because, as players, they have a right to know information about the tokens, most commonly in this example which ones have summoning sickness and which ones do not. Now, as far as miracle--and that other card that was linked up there--is there some sort of rule that states that all players must be able to distinguish between current cards in hand and ones just drawn, like maybe cards freshly drawn have to go to the front or the back of your hand? It looks stupid just typing it out, but now I'm very curious as to how players and judges are going to enforce this. I mean, I myself organize my hand by mana cost, and when a new card goes into my hand I don't always put it in the same spot. But depending on what other miracle cards we will have, I might draw a card and absent-mindedly file it in its "rightful place" in my hand while contemplating whether or not I want to cast it via miracle, and I can see where that would be very confusing, and maybe even rage inducing, depending on who I'm playing with and what the board looks like (oh, Riku of Two Reflections , you are my favorite general right now, but everyone hates you).
My guess with Miracle is that is will have some sort of replacement effect that has you reveal it, then a triggered ability letting you cast it for its Miracle cost. If you put it into your hand without revealing it, it's too late.
Edit: Alright, what about this: When I play with Grave Titan , I usually represent my Zombie tokens with one token that has a die on it that represents how many of those tokens I have. The group of people I play with use similar methods for tokens, as it tends to keep the board free of clutter. However, it is completely up to my opponents to have me represent my tokens in a different way, because, as players, they have a right to know information about the tokens, most commonly in this example which ones have summoning sickness and which ones do not. Now, as far as miracle--and that other card that was linked up there--is there some sort of rule that states that all players must be able to distinguish between current cards in hand and ones just drawn, like maybe cards freshly drawn have to go to the front or the back of your hand? It looks stupid just typing it out, but now I'm very curious as to how players and judges are going to enforce this. I mean, I myself organize my hand by mana cost, and when a new card goes into my hand I don't always put it in the same spot. But depending on what other miracle cards we will have, I might draw a card and absent-mindedly file it in its "rightful place" in my hand while contemplating whether or not I want to cast it via miracle, and I can see where that would be very confusing, and maybe even rage inducing, depending on who I'm playing with and what the board looks like (oh, Riku of Two Reflections , you are my favorite general right now, but everyone hates you).
Once a card hits the hand, it is indistinguishable from other cards in the hand.
402.3. A player may arrange his or her hand in any convenient fashion and look at it as much as he or she wishes. A player can’t look at the cards in another player’s hand but may count those cards at any time.
My guess with Miracle is that is will have some sort of replacement effect that has you reveal it, then a triggered ability letting you cast it for its Miracle cost. If you put it into your hand without revealing it, it's too late.
Yeah, I can see it working something like madness does.
How about we wait until we know the actual rules for the keyword (and potential other rules to support it) before speculating that it maybe doesn't work?
I was there at PAX. The exact text said, "If this is the first card you have drawn this turn, you may cast this for it's miracle cost." They also have an odd card frame.
This is going to cause conflict EVERYWHERE. Thank Avacyn for the Return to Ravnica announcment, or I'd be super-duper pissed.
