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1 year ago  ::  Apr 04, 2012 - 6:34PM #1
CourtesyFlush
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If I equip a planeswalker Sarkhan Vol with Darksteel Plate it obviously makes it indestructible. With that would I be able to use his last ability, once I get enough points.. each turn since he cant die?
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 04, 2012 - 6:37PM #2
Helluminatus
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Actually, there are a couple things wrong here. Sarkan Vol is not a creature, and therefore cannot wear darksteel plate. Also, planeswalkers are not destroyed in the same way as creatures. Even if he had indestructible, he would still lose counters when taking damage and leave play if he runs out.
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 04, 2012 - 6:40PM #3
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Additionally, even if, somehow, you were able to keep a planeswalker on the battlefield after it ran out of loyalty counters (there is currently no way to do this), you would not be able to use his -6 ability unless you actually had 6 counters on him, because removing the counters is the cost of the ability. If you cannot remove 6 counters (because there aren't 6 counters to be removed), you cannot pay the cost of the ability, and thus cannot activate it.
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 04, 2012 - 7:56PM #4
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Artifact-Equipments can only be attached to creatures. Planeswalkers are not creatures. End of story.


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1 year ago  ::  Apr 04, 2012 - 8:06PM #5
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Apr 4, 2012 -- 7:56PM, Chaikov wrote:


Artifact-Equipments can only be attached to creatures. Planeswalkers are not creatures. End of story.




Although Some of them can be equipped/enchanted sometimes.

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 04, 2012 - 11:20PM #6
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Apr 4, 2012 -- 8:06PM, Shard_Fenix wrote:

Apr 4, 2012 -- 7:56PM, Chaikov wrote:


Artifact-Equipments can only be attached to creatures. Planeswalkers are not creatures. End of story.




Although Some of them can be equipped/enchanted sometimes.



Additionally, some of them (most commonly Gideon) can become creatures permanently. Being a Planeswalker doesn't disqualify a permanent from being equipped; it's just that most planeswalkers are not also creatures most of the time.

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 05, 2012 - 10:46AM #7
CourtesyFlush
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Oh yea, I totally forgot about them not being creatures. 
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 05, 2012 - 11:00AM #8
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Just for futher emphasis, a planeswalker with zero loyalty counters is put in the graveyard as a state based action, this is not destruction.  So even if the planeswaler was Indestructible it will go to the graveyard when it runs out of loyalty counters.
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 05, 2012 - 1:53PM #9
LegendaryImmersion
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Now, I would understand the planeswalker leaving if I used an ability that dropped it's counter to 0.  But if it has 1 counter, and it's the target of Volt Charge, would it still die?  My thoughts on this are since Indestructible states that the target doesn't take lethal damage, the planeswalker should still be able to live.  If he goes to 0, he dies.  I understand his life is a counter, but it's still lethal.
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 05, 2012 - 1:58PM #10
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No, being indestructible just means that something can't be destroyed. It doesn't ever prevent damage.
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