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1 year ago  ::  Apr 06, 2012 - 4:23PM #41
BlindMessiah
Date Joined: Apr 5, 2012
Posts: 20

Apr 6, 2012 -- 8:31AM, Mandroid wrote:

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Hire me Wizards!!!  I've consistantly contributed to the deck discussion, and I promise I'll keep up with the forum conversations and whatnot on choices and strategies - it's like a second article!




Lol, who knows maybe they will??

You bring up some good points, but he failed to do what you said in this article. I would have no problem if in his decklist he said "I am running 4 Funeral Charm but if you can afford it - go with damnation."
But just simply running them and then not using the budget choices as a STARTING point is really weaksauce. I'm gonna keep saying this, but it's BoaB. He has to honour that.

The manabase thing is frustrating. I get what you are saying about spending money on lands in an eternal format. Pain lands are all fine and dandy - there are a few budget choices that don't enter the battlefield tapped. but in general, I'm gonna be honest, myself and most budget players will just absolutely not be able to afford manabases that are $4+ each. A playset is now $12, and if you combine that with the fact that there are 5 colours in magic that you need mana fixing for, well, it can get annoyingly expensive. I find myself running more Terramorphic Expanses and Ravnica duals, etc nowadays, and pain lands where I can afford them.

On a personal level, I think it's ludicrous that wizards makes such a big deal out of giving players lands that don't have CIPT drawbacks or some other stupid drawback (Tarnished Citadel anyone?). There is no worse feeling in magic than being mana screwed. The entire game DEPENDS on mana to work. Then in order to make a deck work they continually offer us crappy mana fixers instead of just giving us decent lands and reprinting them. I'm not asking for dual lands. But would it kill them to reprint the Shock Lands? Or hell, how about continually reprinting the Dragonskull Summit type cards so they drop to the price of pain lands?

I just feel like players should have access to mana without blowing a hole in their wallet everytime they want to build a deck. And I'd rather see the usable duals get reprinted more than see them make dumb decisions like the CIPT Pain lands from Tempest.

That's a personal rant though. Nothing to do with JVL really.


Although, I have emailed him asking to do a column on Budget Mana Base solving. I think a lot of people would appreciate that. Maybe if you agree email him about it!


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1 year ago  ::  Apr 07, 2012 - 4:07PM #42
DacenOctavio
Date Joined: Sep 5, 2009
Posts: 53
I wholeheartedly agree on the issue of preferential inclusion of difficult-to-acquire cards in this article. As for the mana base, Refuge lands from Zendikar have always been cheap. The Kamigawa exhaustion lands, while unsavory for the long game, are just pennies on the dollar and never CIPT.    Mirrodin's Core is and has always been a versatile land. This deck has a low mana curve; the Core should have abundant cou

As for the much fussed-over mass removal, Day of Judgment, Firespout, and Sulfurous Blast are all supported by the array of Vivids. If you have two active vivids, Wrath of God is indistiguishable from Damnation. Earthquake has always been good. If your meta isn't swarming with Delver decks, I would consider it. Slagstorm is also a fine card that is easier to get than Damnation. There's more than one way to wipe a board, distinguished deckbuilders
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 08, 2012 - 5:49PM #43
Weretomas
Date Joined: Aug 28, 2011
Posts: 4
This deck is sick as crap. I've ordered all the cards except for Damnation. There are too many posts complaining about damnation being included in the sideboard. Who cares, one person can point it out, but get over it. Replace Damnation with Chain Reaction or Blasphemous Act. 
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 09, 2012 - 12:05AM #44
Mandroid
Date Joined: Mar 14, 2012
Posts: 16

Apr 8, 2012 -- 5:49PM, Weretomas wrote:

There are too many posts complaining about damnation being included in the sideboard. Who cares, one person can point it out, but get over it.



You do realize that throwing $40 on two cards in the sideboard totally invalidates the theme upon which this column is written, right?  That's why there's been such a conversation about it.

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 09, 2012 - 1:38AM #45
xxalex
Date Joined: Mar 15, 2009
Posts: 69
this deck is amazing, i'm testing it non stop into my playgroup and i got good result, the hardest matchups until now is karn tron, after side is still hard as hell, but i'm luck that just one person is running it into my city.
side note about damnation, i have them, but i'm also trying infest in their place for the 3 cmc, it saved me a lot.
talking about the manabase i have not changed it, i think that shockland+fetch are not for this deck because the life loss is relevant, and the vivid land are great for their versatily, but still i want to have some less CITP, urborg is a nice inclusion also 
Sorry for my bad english
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 10, 2012 - 12:44PM #46
The_Duke
Date Joined: May 11, 2006
Posts: 200
Really enjoyed this series, and it makes me want to play Modern.

Off-topic:

Apr 4, 2012 -- 5:14AM, writer1007 wrote:



Don't tell us what you will write about, just write about it.




This is very common for instructional and how-to writing, but not incorrect. Maybe his style is a little stilted and unpolished, but introductions are certainly traditional for this genre.

 

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