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1 year ago ::
Apr 02, 2012 - 9:15AM
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Date Joined:
Oct 29, 2007
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Meditate  The printed wording appears to make it possible to skip X turns to draw 4X cards, but the Oracle rendering does not have that option. Why not? Furthermore, one should be able to cast Meditate for no discernible effect at all. This appears to be the proper interpretation of the printed wording. Choose X.
Draw four cards X times.
Skip your next X turns.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 02, 2012 - 9:18AM
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Date Joined:
Jan 19, 2003
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At the time meditate  was printed, the wording you see on the card was the standard template for additional costs. It did not mean you could do it multiple times. Other cards had this same template as well (eg, Fling  ), and they have been now updated to use the modern templates for additional costs. Meditate can't quite be updated to the same template as fling because "skipping turns" doesn't really work as a cost, so instead the turn-skipping is just part of the effect.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 02, 2012 - 9:45AM
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Date Joined:
Mar 16, 2010
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While the original post is clearly coming from an incorrect point of view of assuming that colon=activated ability at that time, cyphern brings up a good point. As cards like this were templated as additional costs, should there be some way to word it such that it functions as one? A countered Meditate should still cause you to skip your next turn.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 02, 2012 - 9:51AM
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Date Joined:
Mar 16, 2004
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"When you cast Meditate, skip your next turn. This ability can't be countered.
Draw four cards."
A precise restoration of original functionality! Horribly confusing wording, but hey, nobody's actually going to look at it anyway, are they?
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1 year ago ::
Apr 02, 2012 - 9:57AM
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Date Joined:
Oct 13, 2002
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Mediate is a staple in a competitive legacy deck (high tide), so yes, people are going to look at it.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 02, 2012 - 11:27AM
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Date Joined:
Apr 26, 2010
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If it was worded similar to how cascade works when it is put on the stack skip your next turn. Or when you cast meditate you skip your next turn.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 02, 2012 - 11:50AM
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Then it starts to combo with Stifle  .
And so people say to me, "How do I know if a word is real?" You know, anyone who's read a children's book knows that love makes things real. If you love a word, use it! That makes it real. Being in the dictionary is an artificial distinction; it doesn't make the word any more real than any other word. If you love a word, it becomes real.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 02, 2012 - 11:52AM
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As an additional cost to cast Meditate, give yourself an emblem with "The next time you would begin a turn, instead you skip that turn and this emblem ceases to exist."
Yeah...no.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 02, 2012 - 12:15PM
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Date Joined:
Apr 26, 2010
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To bad cards don't have an addtional cost txt box to make it much cleaner and understood
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1 year ago ::
Apr 02, 2012 - 12:41PM
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- Celestial Teapots are broken!
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To bad cards don't have an addtional cost txt box to make it much cleaner and understood
I don't see what problem that would solve. Certainly not Meditate , since the issue there is that skipping your next turn can't be a cost.
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