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1 year ago  ::  Mar 30, 2012 - 9:18AM #1
CourtesyFlush
Date Joined: Oct 20, 2011
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Celestial Colonnade

Still counts as a land. You can block it and not take the damage, but can a land die?
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 30, 2012 - 9:22AM #2
ChazA4
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Absolutely.  In that situation, it's just as much a creature as a land.  That also makes it Doubly Vulnerable .

EDIT: I should clarify, it would only be a creature when you activate the ability, if there was any question about that.  But the same basics I pointed out up top still apply.
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 30, 2012 - 6:02PM #3
2goth4U
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Mar 30, 2012 -- 9:18AM, CourtesyFlush wrote:

but can a land die?


if the land is also a creature, yes most definitely.

Substitute artifact for land. Can an artifact die?
you'll think on it and realize that you've seen many a Myr die and didn't think anything of it because it's also a creature.

The exact same result occurs to an animated Inkmoth Nexus targeted by any of the following...
Shatter or
Doom Blade or
Stone Rain or
Vindicate
It is destroyed.

Likewise if a creature (regardless of other types it may have) is dealt lethal damage, it dies.

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 30, 2012 - 7:29PM #4
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I was under the same false assumption when I first started playing.  I have no idea where it comes from.
There is nothing special about a Land Creature, it can die from damage just like any other creature can. 
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 01, 2012 - 5:02PM #5
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Mar 30, 2012 -- 9:18AM, CourtesyFlush wrote:

You can block it and not take the damage,




What do you mean by «not take the damage»?


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1 year ago  ::  Apr 03, 2012 - 3:54PM #6
CourtesyFlush
Date Joined: Oct 20, 2011
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I was meaning if someone blocked it. They wouldnt take damage. Thats why I was asking if a land can die. 
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 03, 2012 - 4:20PM #7
Escef
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Apr 3, 2012 -- 3:54PM, CourtesyFlush wrote:

I was meaning if someone blocked it. They wouldnt take damage. Thats why I was asking if a land can die. 




Do you mean the Land Creature wouldn't take damage? Because if that's what you mean you are very wrong. Your choice of words isn't helping people know if you are saying what we are afraid you are saying.

A "man-land" follows all the rules relevant to its types. If it is a creature it attacks, blocks, deals damage, receives damage, is destroyed, and/or is Exiled the same as any other creature is. The fact that it is also a Land makes no difference.

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 04, 2012 - 12:53AM #8
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I'm pretty sure he is just clarifying that if the Celestial Colonnade is blocked like any normal creature would be, the blocking player would not take any damage from it. 

Which, of course, is the case because man-lands act like creatures when they are animated.  Block it with a Serra Angel and they both die.  Block it with a Scryb Sprites and the sprites die.  Block it with a Lord of the Pit and the Colonnade dies. 
In all of these cases the blocking player will take no damage.
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 04, 2012 - 1:05AM #9
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Apr 4, 2012 -- 12:53AM, GainsBanding wrote:

I'm pretty sure he is just clarifying that if the Celestial Colonnade is blocked like any normal creature would be, the blocking player would not take any damage from it.




The thing is that the way he worded what he said it implies otherwise. I mean, look at what he wrote.

"I was meaning if someone blocked it. They wouldnt take damage. Thats why I was asking if a land can die."

The third sentence in that makes no sense in any context other than him assuming that man-lands don't take damage. That or he just has a very hard time expresing himself in English. It could be that English is a secondary language for him. For that matter, I've seen plenty of people who's only language is English who have a difficult time stringing a coherent sentence together. (Please tell me this isn't the case, even if you have to lie to me.)

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