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1 year ago ::
Mar 29, 2012 - 2:01PM
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Date Joined:
Mar 20, 2012
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The creature is sacrificed to disciple of grisselbrand as part of the cost of activating the ability.
Ah. I missed that distinction. Thanks.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 29, 2012 - 2:02PM
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Oct 13, 2002
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This is what I am not understanding. Do you have the rule # for this so I can look it up. I am trying to find it but not having much luck. Also, is this only activated abilities that can resolve even if their source died ahead of them on the stack or all abilities?
Both activated and triggered abilities. Static abilities stop working immediately when the object they're on leaves the battlefield.
112.7a Once activated or triggered, an ability exists on the stack independently of its source. Destruction or removal of the source after that time won’t affect the ability. Note that some abilities cause a source to do something (for example, “Prodigal Pyromancer deals 1 damage to target creature or player”) rather than the ability doing anything directly. In these cases, any activated or triggered ability that references information about the source because the effect needs to be divided checks that information when the ability is put onto the stack. Otherwise, it will check that information when it resolves. In both instances, if the source is no longer in the zone it’s expected to be in at that time, its last known information is used. The source can still perform the action even though it no longer exists.
All Generalizations are Bad
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1 year ago ::
Mar 29, 2012 - 2:07PM
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Mar 20, 2012
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Because an ability on the stack isn't dependent on its source still being on the battlefield to resolve.
This is what I am not understanding. Do you have the rule # for this so I can look it up. I am trying to find it but not having much luck. Also, is this only activated abilities that can resolve even if their source died ahead of them on the stack or all abilities?
You could think about it like this: It isn't the Disciple of Griselbrand who is going onto the stack. Rather, it's the ability "You gain life equal to the sacrificed creature's toughness" that goes on the stack. The Disciple just let you put it there while he was on the battlefield.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 29, 2012 - 4:10PM
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Jun 21, 2006
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is this only activated abilities that can resolve even if their source died ahead of them on the stack or all abilities?
Triggered abilities can too.
Static abilities of Permanents don't use the Stack.
Triggered and static abilities of Spells will have their effects while no player has Priority,
so you have no opportunity to stop them.
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Sounds familiar?
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1 year ago ::
Mar 29, 2012 - 6:09PM
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Date Joined:
Sep 17, 2005
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is this only activated abilities that can resolve even if their source died ahead of them on the stack or all abilities?
Triggered abilities can too.
Static abilities of Permanents don't use the Stack.
Triggered and static abilities of Spells will have their effects while no player has Priority,
so you have no opportunity to stop them.
I don't know what you're trying to say, but it didn't come out right. Triggered abilities from spells are just like any other triggered ability, they use the stack and can be responded to.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 29, 2012 - 6:37PM
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Jun 21, 2006
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Corrected. Thanks!
«Dystocracy : A system of government in which corrupt leadership colludes with dishonest bankers and greedy elites in order to ensure that productive members of society –people who actually do useful work- bear the greatest share of taxes while gaining the least benefit possible.»
Sounds familiar?
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