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1 year ago ::
Mar 28, 2012 - 9:23PM
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I'm not aware of anything that can stop an Emrakul on the stack.
You just named one. Venser bounces him from the stack or battlefield.
Executioner's Capsule  can kill him, Gideon's Lawkeeper  and Ensnaring Bridge 
I play all of these. erryday.
They all work. If you're worried about Emrakul enough to call for a ban, maybe you should try playing the cards that deal with him.
Oblivion Ring  can remove him.
Not if he's hardcasted. 
How he's cast has nothing to do with it. O-Ring can remove him. You'll have to wait for your turn to come around, but since I've already mentioned above that you can prevent him from ever attacking that's not such a big problem.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 29, 2012 - 10:39AM
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They all work. If you're worried about Emrakul enough to call for a ban, maybe you should try playing the cards that deal with him.
How he's cast has nothing to do with it. O-Ring can remove him. You'll have to wait for your turn to come around, but since I've already mentioned above that you can prevent him from ever attacking that's not such a big problem.
The suggested cards will only work against Emrakul. Not even the deck(s) as a whole. Just Emrakul. Sideboarding in 1-4+ copies of something just do deal with a single card in a single deck is ridiculous.
Commandeer  . Now you have an Emrakul.
p.s. It just dawned on me that Commandeer will not work.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 29, 2012 - 2:22PM
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People are running MD card's that can deal with Emrakul.
Cryptic Command taps him down to give you another turn to cats a ring/ensnaring bridge, phyrexian metamorph etc etc, or finish your opponent off.
Pestermite taps him down, lets you untap into splinter twin win.
Ghost quarter/Tectonic edge.
Chord of Calling out a Shriekmaw kills him.
Tron decks are the only ones running Emrakul. However there are loads of decks that beat Tron. Try to beat the deck, not a specific card, because they are doing mroe than one card, as you should also be doing.
Christ, pack some Blood moon in the board and be done with it. Literally, until you start playing competitive decks properly, then you have no justification for commenting on the format. Have you even played in a PTQ? If so, what deck did you play? What deck are you playing in modern at the moment that can't beat any of the pillars of the format?
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1 year ago ::
Mar 29, 2012 - 2:59PM
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Yes, let's see the deck that cannot deal with Emrakul and we will fix it for you.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 29, 2012 - 3:17PM
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Yes, let's see the deck that cannot deal with Emrakul and we will fix it for you.
My debate is that there's no common method to deal with an existing Emrakul. Seemingly everything except Emrakul can be both commonly prevented from hitting the field and dealt with once hitting the field. All the listed methods have been either/all far-fetched, uncommon, topdeck master solutions. And even with those solutions, there's potential to have to undergo the same ordeal if you bury him as opposed to RFGing him. And what does red do against a landed Emrakul? What does affinity do?
p.s. If you want to see a deck that can't deal with an existing Emrakul, look no further than my Big Red I posted in the deck help. For someone who tossed out a want ad desiring help, you've certainly reciprocated...
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1 year ago ::
Mar 29, 2012 - 3:42PM
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Perhaps try playing a good deck.
As for Affinity, they tend to smash Tron pretty effectively.
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Mar 29, 2012 - 3:45PM
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As for Affinity, they tend to smash Tron pretty effectively.
Again, the solution is "beat them before they beat you".
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1 year ago ::
Mar 29, 2012 - 3:48PM
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It's very easy to beat your opponent before they Emrakul you. It's the same as playing agaisnt a control deck in most formats, you have so many turns to win before they have a full controlled grasp of the game.
If you hate Emrakul so much, play Twin and you can tap it down whenever you like. Or Melira pod with Shriekmaw.
If you run a deck that isn't good enough to compete, don't start asking for the format to be fixed. There are a potential 15 decks capable of winnning a PTQ. Emrakul is not an issue.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 29, 2012 - 6:04PM
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Please explain to me how having a 15/15 can't be countered, sac six permanents, take an extra turn, protection from colored spells creature is good for ANY metagame? I have yet to observe Emrakul as anything other than abusive and broken. Cards are not supposed to be designed like this.
To reward people who can consistently get 15 mana before you kill them, or jump through some unusual hoops to cast it another way (not put it straight into play). If you're letting someone get to that point, the game is over no matter what they're spending 15 on. Off the top of my head, Banefire  for the same cost wouldn't put you in any better position.
There are more ways out against Banefire, aren't there? You can get Venser (the creature), you can prevent the damage, or you can get Gaddock Teeg before they do that. I'm not aware of anything that can stop an Emrakul on the stack. He resolves- guaranteed- and whatever you're doing after that doesn't matter. The game is over. In what universe should a card that reads, "the game is over" be legal in any format?
Venser bounces Emrakul from the stack too btw.
Of course I'm sure I've gone mad. The little man who crawled out of my eye was quite clear on this.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 29, 2012 - 10:58PM
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It's very easy to beat your opponent before they Emrakul you. It's the same as playing agaisnt a control deck in most formats, you have so many turns to win before they have a full controlled grasp of the game.
If you hate Emrakul so much, play Twin and you can tap it down whenever you like. Or Melira pod with Shriekmaw.
If you run a deck that isn't good enough to compete, don't start asking for the format to be fixed. There are a potential 15 decks capable of winnning a PTQ. Emrakul is not an issue.
I've read most of your comments in this thread. I find them insulting and arrogant. I play Melira Pod with Shriekmaw and Chord of Calling already. Of course, generating 8 mana at instant speed is very difficult against a deck where they run Pyroclasm regularly. Perhaps a better answer would be Phantasmal Image- he's cheaper and does the same thing.
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