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1 year ago ::
Mar 26, 2012 - 2:02AM
#11
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Koth already won.
Venser is dead. He sacrificied himself to cleanse Karn of the phyrisis.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 26, 2012 - 3:26AM
#12
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These decks have been strongly criticized in other forums.
I really liked the explanation of how these decks came to be. It shows why they look so poor at first glance... until you realize the fine balance of the two. We got the answer to why mulldrifter and similar cards are not there, for example.
Still some missed opportunities: Valakut for a geomancer was perfect (but maybe it's in the next FtV...). For firebreathing creactures 3 Sandstone Warrior would have been much much better (it breathes shards....). Over Jaedit's Dragoons you could have chosen the Temple Acolyte (ok it was printed in the Elspeth deck, but it was a perfect fit). And besides Stone Giant we could have seen Bloodshot Cyclops... fling FTW!
But I beg for the explantion of why Momentary Blink is not there with new art???????????? On theme, in color, popular, a common... the perfect candidate for inclusion and on top of that for alternate art treatment!!!
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1 year ago ::
Mar 26, 2012 - 5:21AM
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Date Joined:
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So...in order to ensure this deck played differently from all the other mono-red decks...you included a card that's barely playable in M12 Limited and one that was unplayable in 7th Edition Limited?
Are there seriously that few playable red cards in the history of Magic?
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1 year ago ::
Mar 26, 2012 - 5:26AM
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Date Joined:
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I'm saddened that Momentary Blink  was apparently never on the table, but I can respect the rest of the design/development decisions. Cheers!
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1 year ago ::
Mar 26, 2012 - 8:40AM
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I'm saddened that Momentary Blink was apparently never on the table, but I can respect the rest of the design/development decisions.
Cheers!
Beat me to it. This one has shouted Venser since Time Spiral, Wizards ought to be ashamed
I have no problems, I could just use a bit of time.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 26, 2012 - 8:40AM
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Date Joined:
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I appreciate the article for why card choices were made and how a delicate balance was made, but seriously there is nothing exciting in any of these decks. The planeswalkers themselves are middling at best and the entire thing could be bought for less then retail from your local game stores bulk bin so whats the point of it all?
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1 year ago ::
Mar 26, 2012 - 8:41AM
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A landfall deck that has only two card that let you trigger landfall more than once a turn or on your opponents turn? Really? No Valakut, no teramorphic, that is horrible. Yeah I'll be playing a mountain every turn thanks to all three basic land tutors, so I'll wrecking face, turn 10. I prefer longer games, but your deck shouldn't be finally starting to go that far in.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 26, 2012 - 8:50AM
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I just realized they said in that article that they changed the order so that the planeswalkers wouldn't be overshadowed. I think that's why the decks are so boring, now you have to talk about the planeswalkers in them, they're the only half interesting thing in them.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 26, 2012 - 9:04AM
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Aug 29, 2009
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I really LOVED the elspeth vs tezzeret one. The art, the cards, the themes...
I enjoyed the Nicol Bolas vs Ajani deck. Not for the cards, but for the alternate art and theme (i'm an Alara fan).
I expected to buy this Venser vs Koth, but when I saw the cards it has in, I thought back and doubted of buying it.
Well, it still has some really cool alternative art cards. I probably could buy it... maybe...
Then you realise it appears only in english and japanese, and the doubts dissapear. I will not buy it. I swear.
As an european player, my native language is not english, neither japanese.
If I want to have and pay for english cards, I log on Magic Online and get them. They are only available in english worldwide, which is ok.
If I want cards in my native language, I go to the store to buy them. But with this product I can't do that.
You screw things up. A casual product very far from the casual audience because you did it in foreign languages.
Yes, maybe porfessional and competitive players are ok with english cards, maybe with japanese cards too.
But the casual players, who I think this product is for, don't care about english or japanese cards.
The saddest part is that NO ONE at Wotc said why this happened. Why they canceled all the other languages that were previously announced to that product. The languages disappereared and no one told us, your customers, an explanation of this.
What a pitty and what a shame...
I hope this Duel Deck sells so bad that you never ever do it again (the cut languages thing).
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1 year ago ::
Mar 26, 2012 - 10:57AM
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Great article. Yeah, some of the card choices aren't going to appeal to many players who just want to play with incredibly powerful cards, but it seems many people miss the balance part: every timey you change a card on one side, you need to address how it affects the other side. Momentary Blink fits in with the bounce theme, but how does it play with balance? It may be too powerful, bouncing your opponent's biggest attacker without having to use your own creatures to block. Does Flashback fit with the deck's theme as well? It'd be the only card with Flashback... I don't like Venser PW card, personally. I think it's a rather overpowered card. Some PWs are just more powerful than others. It does look like a well-balanced mix of cards though for each PW to play around. One of the things I've noticed with the duel decks is that they aren't your typical constructed decks. They aren't running 4-ofs of the most powerful cards in magic. The decks are built for theme, for style, for balance, for strategy. When you only have one of a creature, you tend to think more about how you play it. Ajani vs Nicol Bolas is a good example of this. Brackwater Elemental was a great early hitter -- a 4/4 for 3 mana. Instead of unearthing it though (and then exiling it), you can pull it back out with Rise/Fall, Profane Command, or Cruel Ultimatum. That sets it up for a nice amount of attacks or blocks. That kind of interaction works in a Duel Deck, even though there is only one of each of those cards in it. The same is true here.
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