This thread is for discussion of this week's Building on a Budget, which goes live Wednesday morning on magicthegathering.com.
I suppose this deck is fine on a level... but it's rather a weak use for Grand Architect. The strength of the card isn't the Anthem ability, but how well it plays with artifacts, and there are just not enough artifacts to matter in this deck. You could replace Grand Architect with Silver-inlaid dagger and i doubt it would impact it's performance.
I just would rather not waste the Architect's potential by placing it in a Pike Delver Shell, that's all. Pike Delver does just fine without it.
I think it looks to be pretty awesome. Looks like a good way to get those swords through counter Magic or to leave counter Magic up. I'll think about sleeving something like it up in the future for FNM. Looks to be fun and a cool twist on traditional Delver lists.
At least Ponder is legal in the format this time.
Y U no video, JVL....
They should really start enforcing MtGO video recording of the playtests in each deckbuilding column. Pratically all the main websites do it, why can't the mothership get back on the train too?
Very similar to the list I played at FNM, if I'da had Wurmcoil Engine I'm pretty sure I'd have won it all.
i think adding Steel Hellkite is nice, its cheap and with the architect it can come down early.
I played this deck last FNM with Erbrus, got out Erbrus on turn 3 swinging and transformed by turn 4, with the swapouts of the Snapcasters makes it pretty fun.
2 Buried Ruin
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Grand Architect
4 Invisible Stalker
3 Snapcaster Mage
1 Elbrus, the Binding Blade
2 Gitaxian Probe
4 Mana Leak
4 Runechanter's Pike
3 Thought Scour
4 Vapor Snag
25 other spells
3 Phantasmal Image
1 Elbrus, the Binding Blade
2 Gitaxian Probe
2 Think Twice
This just seems like downgraded Delver deck. Nakamura played something similar to this at GP: Orlando without the budget restriction and I think he top 32ed, but I can't see why you would jam with this if R/G aggro and reanimator decks are both bad matchups. What's its strong matchup? It's not the virtual mirror since a non-budget delver deck would beat you on card quality and I doubt UB or Planeswalker control cares much about Spined Thopter beatdowns.
What's with single games at the end instead of matches? Also agree that videos are needed..
Why was the flashbacked Unburial Rites not Negated, since Dissipate is a far more versatile counter (and is even better against a Reanimation deck if you get a creature like Inferno Titan)?
Anyway, the deck looks fun and I want to try it. Definitely want to add more artifacts like Wurmcoil Engine, similar to the building on a budget deck that had grand architects, wurmcoils, and phantasmal images and such.
Nice build, but Surgical (the sideboard suggestion) is NOT on a budget. Otherwise I'd own 1-4 of them.
"Dismember is an incredible removal spell for a mono-blue deck. I don't think this deck can afford the pain of more than one Dismember, considering it's already playing Gitaxian Probe and Spined Thopter."
Perhaps I'm missing something here, but there is no "pain" (life loss) from casting Gitaxian Probe or Spined Thopter in a mono-blue deck. Their costs can be paid with blue mana. It's not just big glaring legality errors, but little details like this that really weaken this column from week to week.
I have a question.
How do you make Grand Architect decks competitive?
1. This deck seems like it's just a low-end delver shell.
2. Every time I try to make a deck with the architects mana ability I seem to run into the problem of consistency.
I guess the real question is, how do you make a Grand Architect consistent?
Specifically assuming you are not countered any deck with a grand architect in it needs to be playing that card by turn 3. It seems that any deck based on using its mana ability for artifacts seriously falls apart if you do NOT land an architect at that point in time.
This guy is my favorite 'lord' as well. But it seems every time I make a deck that on paper looks like it could dish out some serious power I'm finding myself scooping cards because I can't find an Architect when I need one.
I don't want to beat a guy when he's down, with that pretty major error last week...but where did that Man Leak in the second Game come from? He didn't have it in his opening hand, and he didn't draw it. When he mentioned Mana Leak I thought he was referring to the Negate in his hand, but then he mentioned that the Negate was left at the end.
This was exactly what I'm looking for out of a budget-deckbuilding column: a deck that's easy to put together, fun to play, and competitive enough to pull a decent FNM record coupled with suggestions on how to invest more in the deck if I end up liking it enough to continue with it. Kudos!
As far as the deck goes, it might be worth trying out Gust Skimmer. You talk about flying creatures being important in the R/G matchup, and it gives you explosive turns that involve Architect into Thopter into Skimmer. One of my favorite things about Architect is that it doesn't require the creature to lose summoning sickness before it can tap for mana, and including another 2-mana evasive artifact takes good advantage of this.
You don't need to tell us how much you love Ponder, JvL.
We all know.
Seriously why does this guy still work here...
i don't see how Snapcaster Mages are as good as people say it is. shure you can replay a spell so what? (im ready to peged w/ hate mail for dissing a 30$ card) i'm just glad that the only 30$ card ive opened in a boster pack was a Sorin, lord of innistrad.
Deck looks interesting. And devoid of crippling clerical errors. I like it.
As for the Snapcaster Mage dispute, it's difficult to describe until you play with it yourself. The closest card to Snapcaster in terms of what it does is Eternal Witness. Putting a 2/1 into play and getting to reuse a given card is enough to tip the balance of most games. Snapcaster finds a home in any deck with Islands, and Eternal Witness is usually found in GW or Zoo lists (where she shines like Venus).
I think the deck is very well constructed on a true budget. I would love to see someone build a deck at this price that is better with this kind of interaction. I am building the deck to play at a shop where top 8 decks are all you will see just to see what happens.
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