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1 year ago  ::  Mar 21, 2012 - 11:34PM #81
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Mar 21, 2012 -- 11:21PM, Qmark wrote:

Mar 21, 2012 -- 10:40PM, kcostell wrote:

So is the theme this week not just Lords but

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"Lord"s that aren't lords in the "+1/+1 to ____" sense?    


Yet still no mention of Kobolds...



kcostell was talking about the card of the day theme. I'm pretty sure they're still not going to mention Kobolds, because there are no Kobolds that fit the theme so far of "cards with lord in the name that aren't mechanically lords."

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 21, 2012 - 11:42PM #82
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Ah... ha?
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 22, 2012 - 12:41AM #83
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Mar 21, 2012 -- 1:13AM, chronego wrote:

Mar 21, 2012 -- 12:05AM, Zindaras wrote:

Oh. My. God. After Emo Jace, we now get Emo Angel. Blackish Angel =/= Emo Angel.

Also, to be honest, I think this whole Avacyn Restored thing is overdone. Sorin clearly created Avacyn to maintain balance. The humans winning =/= balance. I'm starting to see why his vampire family is so angry at him.


Who says the humans are winning, or are going to win? They existed for a long time before with Avacyn, and the monsters are all still around, so obviously even Avacyn isn't enough to wipe out the non-humans. And keep in mind that this was back when she'd already sealed a whole bunch of demons away. If, even with all the demons sealed up, she couldn't wipe monsters out completely, then how could she possibly do it now that all the demons are free again?
However, the humans do need a large number of victories for the story to work. Seeing as they're on the brink of extinction in Dark Ascension, it's going to take a lot of work, and even more luck, just to get back to where they were before.

However, if Wizards does decide to go for a "happily ever after" ending (which I doubt they will, but after how the last couple of blocks ended they might be tempted to give us a happy ending for once... here's hoping not) I will agree with your post wholeheartedly. If Sorin did make Avacyn strong enough to eventually wipe out the vampires, then he seriously messed up, and his kin have every right to be upset with him.




Well, the problem I had was with the werewolves being brought to heel, as well as the fact that "no double-faced cards" implies no werewolves. So they would get rid of one monster type but not the rest? Or will they completely redo Werewolves and annoy all the fans of the double-faced Werewolves?

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 22, 2012 - 5:18AM #84
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Purely from a flavor standpoint: why are Venser and Koth dueling one another? I thought they were allies. Have I missed something huge? (I don't read all the novels.)

Then again, Elspeth and Tezzeret throwing down didn't quite make sense to me either. (Post-Bolas-meddling, sure, but before that? IDGI.)

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 22, 2012 - 5:42AM #85
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Yeah, Duel Decks don't always make sense from a strictly flavor standpoint. Knights VS Dragons doesn't make sense if you think of it as an organized army of knights against an organized horde of dragons. Koth VS Venser makes more sense if you think of it as being the forces both of them brought to the fight against Phyrexia.
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 22, 2012 - 8:33AM #86
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How does the karn tron deck take over all a player's turns when:
1. Though he has plenty of ways to make blue, all of them require sacrifice.
2. He played this deck on mtgo, and winning by mill that way isn't wise to attempt.

Not an issue with his awesome deck, but with the commentary here and in top decks.
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 22, 2012 - 8:50AM #87
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How does the karn tron deck take over all a player's turns when:
1. Though he has plenty of ways to make blue, all of them require sacrifice.
2. He played this deck on mtgo, and winning by mill that way isn't wise to attempt.

Not an issue with his awesome deck, but with the commentary here and in top decks.
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 22, 2012 - 8:55AM #88
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Planeswalkers duel to prove their skill (just like us).

Elspeth vs. Tezzeret is flavorfully off, but at the time we knew the product hinted that the two would have a chance to oppose each other when we returned to Mirrodin. They did, indeed, but of course Elspeth T and Tezzeret, AoB didn't exist yet. That would be one hella expensive DD.

Venser vs. Koth is represented by the challenge ignited by different viewpoints: Koth drafts Venser from Dominaria to come help his people. Venser realizes the Phyrexian meaning, and implores they find Karn. Koth doesn't understand how important this is, and is angry that he would have to abandon his people to seek some holy grail plot. Challenge accepted.

Knights vs. Dragons is a knight planeswalker vs. a dragon planeswalker (personally I'm a GB Pod planeswalker). Maybe the knight planeswalker's tribe is hunting the dragon planeswalker's tribe for foul atrocities done to his people.
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 22, 2012 - 2:57PM #89
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Mar 22, 2012 -- 8:33AM, Spikeshot_Goblin wrote:

How does the karn tron deck take over all a player's turns when: 1. Though he has plenty of ways to make blue, all of them require sacrifice.


Prophetic Prism does not require sacrifice.

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 22, 2012 - 4:59PM #90
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Mar 22, 2012 -- 12:41AM, Zindaras wrote:

Well, the problem I had was with the werewolves being brought to heel, as well as the fact that "no double-faced cards" implies no werewolves. So they would get rid of one monster type but not the rest? Or will they completely redo Werewolves and annoy all the fans of the double-faced Werewolves?


Agreed. Every time Mark Rosewater assures us that "we made sure to include some cards for several decks from Innistrad block in Avacyn Restored", I get this same sense of foreboding. He said there are no DFCs, so either they're not having werewolves, or they're changing them (which would not be as flavorful, and still won't really fit in werewolf decks). He said they're not carrying over the graveyard matters, so blue skaabs won't be carried over either, as their mechanics are self-milling and graveyard-as-a-cost. If they're not including all of the monsters in Avacyn Restored, it's going to feel very weird if they include ANY. Did Avacyn wipe out all the werewolves but leave the vampires and spirits alone? Why? It just doesn't make any sense!

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