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Mar 22, 2012 -- 5:49PM, Minus_Prime wrote:

Werewolves could still have their own non-DFCards.

Mar 22, 2012 -- 4:59PM, chronego wrote:

Mar 22, 2012 -- 12:41AM, Zindaras wrote:

Well, the problem I had was with the werewolves being brought to heel, as well as the fact that "no double-faced cards" implies no werewolves. So they would get rid of one monster type but not the rest? Or will they completely redo Werewolves and annoy all the fans of the double-faced Werewolves?

Agreed. Every time Mark Rosewater assures us that "we made sure to include some cards for several decks from Innistrad block in Avacyn Restored", I get this same sense of foreboding. He said there are no DFCs, so either they're not having werewolves, or they're changing them (which would not be as flavorful, and still won't really fit in werewolf decks). He said they're not carrying over the graveyard matters, so blue skaabs won't be carried over either, as their mechanics are self-milling and graveyard-as-a-cost. If they're not including all of the monsters in Avacyn Restored, it's going to feel very weird if they include ANY. Did Avacyn wipe out all the werewolves but leave the vampires and spirits alone? Why? It just doesn't make any sense!

Well, the only thing that would make sense from her point of view is if she wiped out everything except for the vampires, but then the humans would simply reverse the roles on the vampires, hunting them for sport, which would also be a bad ending for Sorin. Avacyn's whole point is balance, so all the monsters have to remain.

Mar 22, 2012 -- 5:49PM, Minus_Prime wrote:

Werewolves could still have their own non-DFCards. Maybe with Avacyn back the moon is always full, so werewolves are stuck like that forever now.

The problem is that the Werewolves' entire mechanical identity is based on their double-facedness. If you take that away, all you have is a bunch of red and green creatures.

Mar 21, 2012 -- 10:40PM, kcostell wrote:

So is the theme this week not just Lords but

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"Lord"s that aren't lords in the "+1/+1 to ____" sense?    

Yes. There are plenty of them! Chaos Lord was even printed as "Summon Lord".

The no DFC comment doesn't concern me.  When Liliana destroys the Helvault, isn't Innistrad going to be overrun with demons?  It doesn't surprise me then that the other monster types will have a lower profile in Avacyn Restored.

The other thing that occurred to me was the possible connection between werewolves and the Helvault (it being a moon fragment) - what could its destruction mean for werewolves....?

No deck for Monday?