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1 year ago  ::  Mar 15, 2012 - 1:22AM #51
Qilong
Date Joined: Nov 18, 2004
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Mar 14, 2012 -- 11:55AM, PirateAmmo wrote:

Mar 14, 2012 -- 11:02AM, SkyknightXi wrote:

Not actually a cube number (REALLY nitpicky...). 720 was probably chosen on account of being a multiple of 15 (15*48). Thankfully, that's close to an actual cube number, 729 (9^3). Unless the term "Cube" comes from someplace else.


I am positive that the term "Cube" does not come from the total number of cards being the third power of a number. I assume it is called a Cube, because a stack of cards or a box full of cards looks like a cube shape.



A Cube must actually have a multiple of 15 in it, at the least, due to the fact that a Cube is drafted, so the total number has to be at least a multiple of 15 beyond the 6th.

"Possibilities abound, too numerous to count."

"Innocent, unbiased observation is a myth." --- P.B. Medawar (1969)

"Ever since man first left his cave and met a stranger with a different language and a new way of looking at things, the human race has had a dream: to kill him, so we don't have to learn his language or his new way of looking at things." --- Zapp Brannigan (Beast With a Billion Backs)
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 15, 2012 - 5:46AM #52
bob_the_wonder_Beeble
Date Joined: Feb 1, 2003
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Mar 14, 2012 -- 11:02AM, SkyknightXi wrote:

The Cube that was placed probably makes for a good template for people wanting to craft their own Cube to work with, although I have a few light issues (one or two possibly chalkable to my uncertainty that a heady rush of power is supposed to be the main draw for this format)...

--Slight repetition in effect (probably one of the only two really problematic). Elite Vanguard and Savannah Lions ; Armageddon and Ravages of War ; Wildfire and Burning of Xinye . Keep in mind that I'm only counting within a specific color. Wrath of God and Damnation AREN'T duplicates by this measure, nor are Wrath of God and Day of Judgment (former keeps them from regenerating, latter lets you regenerate). With the Vanguard and Lions, I'd probably replace one of them with Loyal Sentry ...just not sure which one ( Stromkirk Noble is the only real factor to look into).
--Card interdiction (this would be the main chalkable, although I can understand if one would rather abjure this factor): Basically, if a card that is strictly inferior *OR* strictly superior has been printed to another card since the latter's last printing in a booster-available set, the latter card is regarded by me as "interdicted". Thus, Counterspell has been interdicted by Cancel . But in the other direction, Volcanic Hammer is interdicted by Incinerate . Dissipate and Cancel don't interdict each other, by the way; Cancel leaves the card available for taking from their graveyard, Dissipate doesn't. But other than that, Dissipate would take priority as the most recently printed.



Duplicate effects have never seemed unreasonable in cube to me, especially not worse versions of cards. Certain decks, especially more aggressive decks, really need certain effects to show up a lot (white aggro really needs to be able to get a critical mass of 1 drops every draft, red needs enough good burn that volcanic hammer is perfectly reasonable). Depending on how much you care about the "spirit" of the format not using stuff like the p3k duplicates is reasonable, but trying to avoid all "worse" cards can really put a strain on what archetypes are viable. Even if volcanic hammer is miles worse than incinerate, it still ends up being one of the better burn spells ever printed.

Some random thoughts on the cube. Its hard to tell without having played it, but it looks like there are a lot of cc 2 drops (especially in white). It makes the cube look a lot worse, but I having a lot of guys that cost really helps make white aggro viable. Also, this was a perfect opportunity to print Blast from the Past online! What a huge oversight!

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 15, 2012 - 9:09AM #53
JamBar
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RE March 15th's "The Rest of the Statute"

Anyone else notice that the angel statue's rocking gauntlets in  Increasing Devotion, but long robe-sleeves in Requiem Angel? Doesn't look like the same statue to me. 

I got to cast Increasing Devotion with a pair of Champions the other day. Made my day. 
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 15, 2012 - 11:25AM #54
Kemev
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Doesn't look like the same statue to me either. The one in Increasing Devotion has a spear in her right hand; in Requiem Angel, the spear's in the left hand. I guess Requiem Angel could be looking at the statue from behind, but that would mean the statue has some messed up hands (which still means it's a different statue, since the hands look normal for Increasing Devotion.
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 15, 2012 - 12:31PM #55
Mavrick593
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They can't be the same statue.  Like JamBar, I noticed the different sleeves as well.
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 15, 2012 - 9:29PM #56
GainsBanding
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This week's card theme is Snow White -- Mirror Mirror, lost in the woods, dwarves, apples, kiss.

Little known fact: the actual line in the movie is "magic mirror on the wall..."
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 16, 2012 - 9:10AM #57
ShardFenix
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Mar 13, 2012 -- 6:16AM, maple31 wrote:

So today's daily deck has over $300 in planeswalkers alone. This is why so many people are turned off from actually entering tournaments.




QQ moar

I like fun, but competitive decks.  So I might not play what is optimal but they have normally been tested to have a 2/3 winrate.
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 16, 2012 - 4:37PM #58
Qilong
Date Joined: Nov 18, 2004
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Mar 16, 2012 -- 9:10AM, ShardFenix wrote:

Mar 13, 2012 -- 6:16AM, maple31 wrote:

So today's daily deck has over $300 in planeswalkers alone. This is why so many people are turned off from actually entering tournaments.




QQ moar



One of the most constructive comments I have EVER read!

"Possibilities abound, too numerous to count."

"Innocent, unbiased observation is a myth." --- P.B. Medawar (1969)

"Ever since man first left his cave and met a stranger with a different language and a new way of looking at things, the human race has had a dream: to kill him, so we don't have to learn his language or his new way of looking at things." --- Zapp Brannigan (Beast With a Billion Backs)
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 17, 2012 - 4:37AM #59
jtsarnak
Date Joined: Jan 21, 2004
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I gotta say I am SOOOO disappointed by this Cube announcement.  When I saw the stuff from Worlds last year where MaRo said cube would be coming to MTGO, I thought it was BS but I held out hope.


So now its actually coming but its a fixed format and pay-for at that.  Ugh.  Why won't WotC give us ANY casual limited formats online.  I hate that I can use my physical cards however I want but my online collection is so tied down.


I understand there is a fear of it taking away from pack/tix sales, but I find the people drafting regularly now aren't likely to stop because public cubes would be available.


Please WotC, let us have a casual cube format....pleaaaasse!!!!  

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 17, 2012 - 3:30PM #60
WotC_Monty
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This is correct, of course:

Mar 15, 2012 -- 9:29PM, GainsBanding wrote:

This week's card theme is Snow White -- Mirror Mirror, lost in the woods, dwarves, apples, kiss.

Little known fact: the actual line in the movie is "magic mirror on the wall..."




My favorite thing is that I used Dwarven Miner , which is pretty accurate for the dwarves the Disney movie.

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