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1 year ago  ::  Feb 06, 2012 - 6:14AM #21
IsgardTheTerrible
Date Joined: Apr 7, 2008
Posts: 38
You know, Wizards keeps saying they want to do more to foster in-store play... and then they do something like this.

I feel like this is the kind of thing that should anger casual players in much the same way (if not to the same degree) that the pro-level OP changes angered the pro community.
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 06, 2012 - 7:01AM #22
orcishartillery
Date Joined: Jun 24, 2003
Posts: 1,259

Feb 5, 2012 -- 9:47PM, Thalatta wrote:

I'm confused as to

1) what this change is, exactly, and

2) why the change is being made.


Likewise.  Wizards really needs to work on improving their organized play announcements.  The pattern of poor explanation of a change, followed by negative customer reaction, followed by apology and better explanation, isn't good for anybody.

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 06, 2012 - 7:45AM #23
pygmyallosaurus
Date Joined: Apr 22, 2008
Posts: 43
Well that's lovely, seeing as my LGS doesn't even run FNM, then again my LGS doesn't do anything other than sell the boosters. So I guess this doesn't affect me.
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 06, 2012 - 8:42AM #24
AluminumAngel
Date Joined: Sep 11, 2007
Posts: 12
I have no idea what this article just said.  It was extremely unclear and confusing.  Helene Bergeot, you need to work on your writing skills.  Articles like that should be clear, to the point, and with the important information at the top.

If it's saying there is no Saturday tournament at my local shop, I will be disappointed.  I enjoy those, and I work Fridays (like most people) and cannot attend FNM. 
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 06, 2012 - 9:24AM #25
dslatimore
Date Joined: Nov 11, 2009
Posts: 1,412
I've listed an explanation of the changes in my post on page 2 of this thread, for those that missed it and are still confused by the changes.
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 06, 2012 - 9:39AM #26
dslatimore
Date Joined: Nov 11, 2009
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I should probably clarify, the article is vague about whether or not stores will be allowed to give out promo cards during Saturday/Sunday events if they want to, or if they will be limited to FNM only.
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 06, 2012 - 9:46AM #27
TheSundry
Date Joined: Aug 27, 2009
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Feb 6, 2012 -- 9:39AM, dslatimore wrote:

I should probably clarify, the article is vague about whether or not stores will be allowed to give out promo cards during Saturday/Sunday events if they want to, or if they will be limited to FNM only.




It is also unclear to us TOs as to how we get allocated these special promos. Do we need to sign up for FNM the night of the release? If so, not good news. I TO for two different stores. One runs FNM, and one does not. In the past we ran a Launch Party instead of FNM on the release date, and then a Launch Party at the other store on Saturday. Both were very well attended (for us) this past weekend.

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 06, 2012 - 10:04AM #28
Aangelica
Date Joined: Feb 6, 2012
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I understood the post - eventually. I agree that the post itself wasn't particularly clear.

One wonders why it is Wizards apparently feels compelled to drive people away from playing their game.  As someone who works full time (and, therefore, has disposable income with which to purchase luxury items such as card game booster packs and the like), a FNM not-really-a-release-party is never going to work out for me.

Not only that, but since Wizards will no longer be supporting the format of previous release parties (sealed), that means that my only options for playing sealed (a format I enjoy) will be pre-releases or PTQ/GP types of events in that format.

What is the point of eliminating events? (Yes, yes, it's not "eliminated" it just isn't supported anymore by Wizards and stores can do what they want! Without Wizards support, it's eliminated, people. A de facto elimination is still an elimination.)

This is the kind of thing that just flips an enormous middle finger to casual players. This kind of maneuver from Wizards just screams "If you don't play FNM then we don't give a crap about you!"

For those of us who either aren't interested in (or can't work into our schedules) things like FNM, prereleases and release parties are about the only time we get a chance to play. Even for people who are all up into the FNM deal, the releases and prereleases are a chance to play with people other than the same 10 faces they see every-freakin'-Friday and be part of a larger community than the dozen dudes at their local game store.

Personally, I don't play constructed. Just not a fan of the format. Which means that, essentially, until I can find a regular draft in my general vicinity that happens on a day that isn't TUESDAY (a weekday upon which I have other commitments), the only cash Wizards will get from me is going to be in the form of release and prerelease tournaments. There are a fair number of us that only appear for the "bigger" release and prerelease events. Apparently, Wizards no longer wants our money.
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 06, 2012 - 10:13AM #29
Monsterguy
Date Joined: Jul 31, 2011
Posts: 33
I've just asked my local store to signed up for the WPN, once everything has gone through it will be at the Gateway level.

The *main* reason for doing this is that for the last year I've been running a Sealed Deck for every release and thought it would be nice to be able to give our players promos.

This article seems to be suggesting this is a minor change that we shouldn't worry about. Well Gateway stores don't get to hold FNM, so does this mean that we wont get anything for release events?


While it will be nice to have the Gateway promos, it's going to be disapointing telling our players that they still can't have the release promos they see all over this site.
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 06, 2012 - 10:36AM #30
sarroth
Date Joined: Jan 4, 2010
Posts: 52
Dear Wizards,

This is an absolutely ridiculous move. You really want to no longer support stores having big events for your product? Most of the time I only care about the upcoming sets because of the release event. Having both the release and prerelease are nice so that I am almost guaranteed I can make one even when I cannot make the other. But now you only want to support the prereleases, so a) there's no big event when the set is actually on sale and b) like I said, if you can't make it, there's no next weekend opportunity. Sure, my local game store can do one anyway if they'd like, but why should all of the work be put on their shoulders, Wizards? I thought you wanted to support local game stores more, not give them this sign that you're pulling back on your efforts.

I love Sealed draft, and I love the excitement of a new set having just come out. I love keeping the promo cards in my binder and looking at them alongside my signed cards and remembering those events.

And you know what? I hate FNM. It's not a casual night, and that's all I play. I'm not going to go to FNM to start getting promo cards and the new-set-excitement feel. I understand you guys care more about FNM than I do, and that most of your customers do as well, but I cannot believe you care more about FNM than you do release events. I consistently support you, but in this past year you have consistently made poor decisions that seem shortsighted and having something other than your loyal customer's interests and desires in mind. And each time you do this you look worse and worse, and you get burned by your customers. Please, just stop doing it. Keep the release events because it's what your loyal customers want. And because it just makes sense to do so.

Joe
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