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1 year ago  ::  Feb 05, 2012 - 11:12PM #11
zammm
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Um, maybe I'm missing something...but that's about the least clear list of changes I've ever seen. Half of that list of "changes" are things that Helen specifically said aren't changing. So, are the changes just that you've decided to give out launch party promos at FNMs instead of specialized events and drop the name "launch party"? Because that's as much as I can get out of this announcement.

To me it sounds like you're discontinuing with the official launch party program entirely--it's just that you don't want players to kick up the fuss you know they would if you actually said that was what you're doing or took away the promos they expect, so you're trying to hide what you're doing behind PR-speak.
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 05, 2012 - 11:22PM #12
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Feb 5, 2012 -- 11:12PM, zammm wrote:

To me it sounds like you're discontinuing with the official launch party program entirely--it's just that you don't want players to kick up the fuss you know they would if you actually said that was what you're doing or took away the promos they expect, so you're trying to hide what you're doing behind PR-speak.


It's that obvious, eh?

Between "we're dropping the name 'launch party'" and "It's just going to be an FNM thing now", they've functionally ended launch events without actually having to declare it dead.

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 05, 2012 - 11:57PM #13
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Feb 5, 2012 -- 9:05PM, Alongitog wrote:

Our local stores have stopped running drafts at prerelease events.  They tell us it's because Wizards "won't let them".  I don't know what the problem is and kinda don't care - maybe you do, though, since it's halved my spending at these events, which I assume you would consider a Bad Thing (TM).  So your comment about drafts confuses me - do you plan on changing policy?  Are the stores incorrect?  If someone could explain the situation, I'd appreciate it.  Otherwise, I'll keep spending less at prereleases, which I suppose I'm okay with.

Thanks for these heads up articles - I do find them useful!

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In the article where they mention that you can play drafts they mean the weekend of release, not preleases.  So your store is correct in not running drafts during prerelease.

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 06, 2012 - 12:05AM #14
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For those having trouble understanding the article:


1.  There will be no more WoTC supported launch parties on the Saturday/Sunday following the release of a new set.

2.  Your local stores can still choose to run events on those days if they want to.  However, if they do, you won't be getting a promo card for participating anymore.  Check with your local stores for more information.  (EDIT: The article is pretty vague on this point, so stores might be allowed to give out the promo cards during Saturday/Sunday events.  Waiting for more clarification from WoTC).

3.  Any FNM that falls on the release date of a set will give out the promo cards.  This will also be League start dates.  It is up to the stores what type of events they will have during FNM (sealed, draft, standard, etc).

4. There have been no announced changes to Prerelease events (except that they are planning to add "something" for Avacyn Restored).
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 06, 2012 - 12:36AM #15
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Feb 6, 2012 -- 12:05AM, dslatimore wrote:

For those having trouble understanding the article:


1.  There will be no more WoTC supported launch parties on the Saturday/Sunday following the release of a new set.

2.  Your local stores can still choose to run events on those days if they want to.  However, if they do, you won't be getting a promo card for participating anymore.  Check with your local stores for more information.

3.  Any FNM that falls on the release date of a set will give out the promo cards.  This will also be League start dates.  It is up to the stores what type of events they will have during FNM (sealed, draft, standard, etc).

4. There have been no announced changes to Prerelease events (except that they are planning to add "something" for Avacyn Restored).




Thank you for specifying clearly what changes are inteded. 

Now to Wizards of the Coast, I created an account on this website specifically to comment on these changes.  I am concerned by WoTC decision to phase out launch parties as a supported event and the shifting of promo cards to Friday.  The shifting of promo release to Friday, as opposed to expanding it to Friday, seems to shrink the magic playing options on the release of a new set.  Having events throughout the weekend gives a larger window of exposure for players such as myself, who always attend Saturday events, but do not often have Friday's available.  I wish the reasoning behind this decision were explained more, as I have found release events to be very popular in my area (granted not as popular as prerelease, is that the reason?)  Is this a matter of cramming as much possible into prerelease weekend, hence that addition of something to Avacyn Restored?  Or is it a shifting of resources to other types of events like pro tours?

Whatever the reason, an explanation of why these changes are taking place would have been helpful.  Nevertheless, the decision is a dissapointing one for me and many other fans of magic, and I hope that these changes are reconsidered.

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 06, 2012 - 2:46AM #16
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I read the article and thought "What just got announced?"

Feb 6, 2012 -- 12:05AM, dslatimore wrote:

For those having trouble understanding the article:


1.  There will be no more WoTC supported launch parties on the Saturday/Sunday following the release of a new set.

2.  Your local stores can still choose to run events on those days if they want to.  However, if they do, you won't be getting a promo card for participating anymore.  Check with your local stores for more information.

3.  Any FNM that falls on the release date of a set will give out the promo cards.  This will also be League start dates.  It is up to the stores what type of events they will have during FNM (sealed, draft, standard, etc).

4. There have been no announced changes to Prerelease events (except that they are planning to add "something" for Avacyn Restored).




I read this and thought "oh, ok".

Please make your articles clearer and more to the point.  Whether I like or dislike the changes, I will always dislike an article which uses a lot of words to avoid saying what it's purporting to say. 

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 06, 2012 - 4:25AM #17
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*sigh* That's disappointing.  I love Limited, and I like (worthwhile) promo cards, but FNMs always seem to be Standard (both at the stores where I now live in Oregon, and the stores where I used to live in North Carolina).  Also, since stores don't seem to run sealed deck events when Wizards isn't making them, this eliminates half of the sealed I get to play.
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 06, 2012 - 5:29AM #18
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Feb 6, 2012 -- 2:46AM, Lepern wrote:



Please make your articles clearer and more to the point.  Whether I like or dislike the changes, I will always dislike an article which uses a lot of words to avoid saying what it's purporting to say. 




Poor communication to Wizards' customer / player audience seems to be a bit of a trend recently.

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 06, 2012 - 5:53AM #19
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I never really liked launch parties anyways....

Wake me when they decide to get rid of pre-releases....

Then we will have something to talk about....
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 06, 2012 - 5:58AM #20
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Feb 5, 2012 -- 11:12PM, zammm wrote:

Um, maybe I'm missing something...but that's about the least clear list of changes I've ever seen. Half of that list of "changes" are things that Helen specifically said aren't changing. So, are the changes just that you've decided to give out launch party promos at FNMs instead of specialized events and drop the name "launch party"? Because that's as much as I can get out of this announcement.

To me it sounds like you're discontinuing with the official launch party program entirely--it's just that you don't want players to kick up the fuss you know they would if you actually said that was what you're doing or took away the promos they expect, so you're trying to hide what you're doing behind PR-speak.


Am I the only person that read that articile that feels like I just wasted 2 minutes of my life?  If your going to put out Wizard's intentions at least provide some rationalization.  Please, Helen do us all a favor stop speaking in riddles.

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