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1 year ago  ::  Feb 02, 2012 - 6:44PM #51
hamazing
Date Joined: Nov 6, 2006
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They've said on Twitter that they submitted the iPhone and Android apps at about the same time, but it's taking longer for the Android version to be approved, and that it should be available within a few days.


Also, what are you guys talking about when you say no multiplayer support? You can add up to six players to the life tracker, and include General damage and poison counters the same way you can with a two player game.


Edit: I forgot to mention that after about twnety minutes of use, the app seemed to be more responsive. Maybe it was because of the downloading in the backgroung. I don't see myself using it for anything other than the life tracker, and I have no complaints with it anymore since it's become more responsive.
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 03, 2012 - 12:00AM #52
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Feb 2, 2012 -- 6:44PM, hamazing wrote:

They've said on Twitter that they submitted the iPhone and Android apps at about the same time, but it's taking longer for the Android version to be approved, and that it should be available within a few days.



This is a lie, plain and simple. You should not believe everything they tell to you.

There is no approval process for Android. Apps go live in seconds, hours in the worst case due to caching used on the servers.

Saying that is a poor excuse, and a lie.

What it says on the official site: developer.android.com/guide/publishing/p...


When you are satisfied that your publishing settings are correctly configured and your uploaded application is ready to be released to the public, you can simply click Publish in the Developer Console to make your app available for download around the world. Keep in mind, it can take several hours for your app to appear on Android Market after you click Publish in the Developer Console. 


 

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 03, 2012 - 2:51AM #53
Highwayman
Date Joined: Feb 3, 2004
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When I'm not grumbling about mythics, I actually have a day job as an IP lawyer, working primarily with digital content owners and platforms. When combined with my experience within the music industry I have practised for over 15 years in this area and I would say I know more about the legal and commercial merits of IP enforcement within it than the entire staff of Wizards.

I am 100% against the aggressive actions taken against other apps*. In all likelihood, a lot of these cases will be without merit but using strongarm tactics, since it is not per se unlawful to create an app designed to support someone elses IP - it is really no different to all of the websites with deckbuilding functions etc. But even if all of the apps were unlawful (which I have not looked into) then there is still a question as to whether it is commercially worthwhile, and all of the evidence suggests it is not.

I recently attended a conference in which the keynote speaker was the creator of angry birds. Their attitude to piracy was simply this: make your own product the easiest to access, better than the others, and reasonably priced, and let the customers sort it out. And that's piracy - this is not even piracy, its just creating rival products.

Shame on you Wizards. I was looking forward to this app, and there are some features that I really like, but I find the deckbuilding clunky and the update pricing regime needlessly grabby. But its the fact that you want to abuse your market position to push out the alternatives, rather than working on improving yours, that I find unacceptable. You are not serving the customer needs, and you are not even serving your own commercial needs.

* I'm assuming that these other apps in question work properly, offer a function and deliver on it, and don't pretend to be an official Wizards product.
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 03, 2012 - 4:38AM #54
JustTerrorIt
Date Joined: Dec 16, 2008
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I'm not sure where all the animosity about WotC taking down 3rd party apps is coming from. If you absolutely must have an app on a platform that involves Magic, it really isn't that difficult to build your own. Also, what's so interesting about this thing in the first place? Why buy something to do Magic related things when you already buy Magic cards either in cardboard form or in digital form?

So you can think about Magic on a bus ride, standing in line at a store, or waiting in the bank? What did you do before now, and why did it all of a sudden stop existing now that this app is available?
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 03, 2012 - 7:53AM #55
Fianor
Date Joined: Feb 3, 2012
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Uhm ... if anyone simply searched the markets there are already MTG apps that do everything this does and more, all free, and on android as well as just iphone.  Not only are you behind WoTC, you're trying to rip us off.
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 03, 2012 - 8:29AM #56
Zr40
Date Joined: Dec 24, 2011
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That could be the reason why WotC is using legal threats to shut down the existing competitors to their just-released Toolbox app.
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 04, 2012 - 8:16AM #57
Temjinzero2
Date Joined: May 23, 2011
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I'm an Android user and I'm sorely disappointed. Since the official toolbox was announced, what I felt was the best MTG app on Android, MTG Deck Forge got pulled from the app store. 

Deck Forge was an amazing app for building decks along with sample hand generator and simple mana curve charts, doing card lookups, and made deck constuction super easy and convinient. 

One of the best parts of Deck Forge was the updates. The dev worked hard to continually clear up bugs and ALWAYS provided the newest set ready to be searched up by the app's card lookup engine and deck builder tools at latest, the day of the set's release. All these conditions such as a micro-transaction every time I want a new set in the deck builder when others once charged a one-time fee to buy the app, and provided support until the app was forcibly pulled by WotC? Pretty disgusting.

I have to agree with many other posters on this thread. Wizards is functionally releasing an inferior product that screams money grab with the micro-transactions for updates and simultaneously demolishing all other alternatives in the market using IP strongarm tactics.

Fortunately, even though there will never be another deck forge update, the app is still there, and even without DKA being added or modern format card sorting, the app still appears functionally superior to the money grab that the official toolbox is right now.
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 04, 2012 - 10:48PM #58
Alphi
Date Joined: Aug 25, 2011
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Shame on you, Wizards! Do you even realize how much money YOU have been making from players using Decked Builder? Or what Magic would really look like without the support of the community? Decked Builder is one of the greatest tools ever made, it improves player's ability to brew and to play the game well, and yes, it makes them buy cards. Everything you have ever produced in terms of digital products has been subpar, so yes, I understand you'd rather remove the competition than trying to compete fairly. But there is a big difference between being legally right and behaving like a bully.

But of course, legality and intellectual rights have nothing to do with this. Otherwise, you would have gone after Decked a long time ago. Nope! You just want to make sure you'll get as much as you can out of your silly app. Well, your silly app can go to he**.
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 05, 2012 - 11:54AM #59
Squaba
Date Joined: Feb 6, 2006
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Not too long ago Wizards shut down an app called iGather, now they release their app which is almost identical to it in every way! Accept now it functions much more slowly and I get the added bonus of paying to update my deck building database. Also they are attacking other excellent apps just so they won't need to worry about the competition! 

Wizards, Magic lives and dies based on the community, so stop acting like bullies and thugs and let the community thrive! 
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 05, 2012 - 12:28PM #60
Zorgrath
Date Joined: Jan 16, 2009
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Curious as to how I can update the deckbuilder? I don't see a pay option anywhere...
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