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Switch to Forum Live View 02/01/2012 BoaB: "A Dog Lover's Guide to Dark Ascension"
1 year ago  ::  Feb 01, 2012 - 5:05AM #11
ex.s.killing
Date Joined: May 26, 2011
Posts: 25
add a bit of burn into the deck would prob be better

im looking forward to decks that sport secrets of the dead and burning vengeance along with retrace mechanic or just flashback in general....

updated splinterfright deck? with so many awesome new additions from dark ascension

maybe a possible zombie tribe deck?

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 01, 2012 - 7:56AM #12
AirPo
Date Joined: Aug 10, 2011
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Why Avacyn's Pilgrim in a red-green deck?
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 01, 2012 - 8:13AM #13
hoffmkr
Date Joined: Nov 10, 2011
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Feb 1, 2012 -- 7:56AM, AirPo wrote:

Why Avacyn's Pilgrim in a red-green deck?


The Pilgrims should probably be Birds of Paradise but that raises the cost of the deck $10.
Pilgrims just ramp so white is really just uncolored.  The other alternative would be a mana myr.

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 01, 2012 - 10:53AM #14
fuxorfly
Date Joined: Nov 10, 2010
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Feb 1, 2012 -- 8:13AM, hoffmkr wrote:

Feb 1, 2012 -- 7:56AM, AirPo wrote:

Why Avacyn's Pilgrim in a red-green deck?


The Pilgrims should probably be Birds of Paradise but that raises the cost of the deck $10.
Pilgrims just ramp so white is really just uncolored.  The other alternative would be a mana myr.




They tap for colorless and attack for 1, seems good enough (and definitely better than the alternatives).

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 01, 2012 - 12:43PM #15
WTFsenseiLOL
Date Joined: Aug 30, 2011
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Feb 1, 2012 -- 8:13AM, hoffmkr wrote:


The Pilgrims should probably be Birds of Paradise but that raises the cost of the deck $10.
Pilgrims just ramp so white is really just uncolored.  The other alternative would be a mana myr.




They tap for colorless and attack for 1, seems good enough (and definitely better than the alternatives).


Those avacyn's pilgrims dont fit at all. I'd much rather have 4 less 1 drops and add Moonscarred Werewolf on the two mana slot. It also helps with the ramp, and if they miss a spell, it allows you to cast an urabrask (or maybe even vorapede) on turn 3

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 01, 2012 - 12:56PM #16
fuxorfly
Date Joined: Nov 10, 2010
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Feb 1, 2012 -- 12:43PM, WTFsenseiLOL wrote:

Feb 1, 2012 -- 8:13AM, hoffmkr wrote:


The Pilgrims should probably be Birds of Paradise but that raises the cost of the deck $10.
Pilgrims just ramp so white is really just uncolored.  The other alternative would be a mana myr.




They tap for colorless and attack for 1, seems good enough (and definitely better than the alternatives).


Those avacyn's pilgrims dont fit at all. I'd much rather have 4 less 1 drops and add Moonscarred Werewolf on the two mana slot. It also helps with the ramp, and if they miss a spell, it allows you to cast an urabrask (or maybe even vorapede) on turn 3




Theres probably two ways to take the deck - as fast as possible, with a really low curve, or going more midrange. Of the mana dork options to put into a low curve deck, Pilgrims probably works the best, since it can attack and it only costs 1. More midrange builds may or may not be better than this build, but this build doesn't really come of as a midrange deck.

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 01, 2012 - 4:47PM #17
ShardFenix
Date Joined: Mar 2, 2005
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Feb 1, 2012 -- 12:56PM, fuxorfly wrote:

Feb 1, 2012 -- 12:43PM, WTFsenseiLOL wrote:

Feb 1, 2012 -- 8:13AM, hoffmkr wrote:


The Pilgrims should probably be Birds of Paradise but that raises the cost of the deck $10.
Pilgrims just ramp so white is really just uncolored.  The other alternative would be a mana myr.




They tap for colorless and attack for 1, seems good enough (and definitely better than the alternatives).


Those avacyn's pilgrims dont fit at all. I'd much rather have 4 less 1 drops and add Moonscarred Werewolf on the two mana slot. It also helps with the ramp, and if they miss a spell, it allows you to cast an urabrask (or maybe even vorapede) on turn 3




Theres probably two ways to take the deck - as fast as possible, with a really low curve, or going more midrange. Of the mana dork options to put into a low curve deck, Pilgrims probably works the best, since it can attack and it only costs 1. More midrange builds may or may not be better than this build, but this build doesn't really come of as a midrange deck.




Wolfbitten Captive ?

I like fun, but competitive decks.  So I might not play what is optimal but they have normally been tested to have a 2/3 winrate.
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 01, 2012 - 4:54PM #18
fuxorfly
Date Joined: Nov 10, 2010
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Feb 1, 2012 -- 4:47PM, ShardFenix wrote:

Feb 1, 2012 -- 12:56PM, fuxorfly wrote:

Feb 1, 2012 -- 12:43PM, WTFsenseiLOL wrote:

Feb 1, 2012 -- 8:13AM, hoffmkr wrote:


The Pilgrims should probably be Birds of Paradise but that raises the cost of the deck $10.
Pilgrims just ramp so white is really just uncolored.  The other alternative would be a mana myr.




They tap for colorless and attack for 1, seems good enough (and definitely better than the alternatives).


Those avacyn's pilgrims dont fit at all. I'd much rather have 4 less 1 drops and add Moonscarred Werewolf on the two mana slot. It also helps with the ramp, and if they miss a spell, it allows you to cast an urabrask (or maybe even vorapede) on turn 3




Theres probably two ways to take the deck - as fast as possible, with a really low curve, or going more midrange. Of the mana dork options to put into a low curve deck, Pilgrims probably works the best, since it can attack and it only costs 1. More midrange builds may or may not be better than this build, but this build doesn't really come of as a midrange deck.




Wolfbitten Captive ?




Might be better in the abstract in that slot, but I was talking mana dorks specifically

And more importantly, JVLs been trying to keep the "no budget" (my words, not his) crowd happy, so commons > uncommons > rares / mythics haha. That being said, is Wolfbitten Captive even a card? [pv]Wolfbitten Captive?!?! Reeeeeeeeaaally?!!!!"[/pv]

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 11, 2012 - 9:38PM #19
InterKnight2007
Date Joined: Oct 28, 2006
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Ran this at FNM this week, and it was AWESOME.   Hellrider is a complete house.  I went 3-1, only lost those 2 games in match 3, and it was because I never saw a 'rider (got him to 3 in one game, and somewhat low in the other, so 'rider would absolutely have closed it).  Not at all difficult to pull a turn 4 win, especially if you can drop a mana dork turn 1, geist turn 2, and 'rider turns 3 and 4.

As far as a sideboard, I just threw something together at the last minute, but I feel like Blasphemous Act is not terrible here, against tokens or the like (I just got the Heroes after the night was over, so tokens probably would have been a problem if I had faced them).  Some burn would also be pretty nice, because I played some test games against my U/W humans, and Mirran Crusader kind of wrecks this (but I am one of the few who play it in my meta, so maybe that's not a problem).

Over all, I think this is a really fun deck, and I love how it plays.  Nothing like Lead the Stampede ing into 4 creatures!
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 30, 2012 - 2:41PM #20
EthelredTheUnusual
Date Joined: Dec 14, 2011
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Have playtested this deck against some others. It works fine if you can punch through enough early and mid-game damage. Bad match against anything with half-decent fliers or control, however. Fun to play though.
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