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mmademonhaze25

Date Joined: Jan 25, 2012

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Hi im new to these forums but iv been an avid magic player since the invasion set, my gf is buying me sorin lord of innistrad and I wanna build a human\vamp token deck around it, thoughts and suggestions?

mmademonhaze25

Date Joined: Jan 25, 2012

Posts: 15

Plz?

mmademonhaze25

Date Joined: Jan 25, 2012

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Il post the deck list I have so far shortly, need help with the spells though

Echo_Robin

Date Joined: Mar 12, 2011

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What are you looking for in a deck? Are you aiming for a tournament worthy Modern deck or just something for casual? I'm assuming the later since Sorin

really isn't Modern material. If so, then you probably want the casual forums.

Anyway, if the main focus of the deck is going to be Sorin, Lord of Innistrad

and tokens, then you'll want to limit yourself to strictly white black. You could splash red given the good support for vamps, but I think two colors is more than enough strain on your mana base unless you've got the funds for good dual

lands

.

Speaking of which, what's your budget? You say your girlfriend is buying you the Sorin

, but how much money do you have on hand for the rest of the deck? It's difficult to suggest a deck list without knowing how much you're willing to fork out for each card and what your intentions are for the deck (tournament vs. casual). So, not knowing your budget or intentions for the deck, I'll just suggest a variety of possible options so that you can have a basic framework for a deck.

White Show

Token Producers:

Doomed Traveler

Timely Reinforcements

Spectral Procession

Token Support:

Mentor of the Meek

Intangible Virtue

Leyline of the Meek

Honor of the Pure

Black Show

Token Producers:

Bloodline Keeper

/ Lord of Lineage

Skirsdag High Priest

Vampires:

Too many to list, honestly. Plus, if you're going the token route, it's hard to tell if Bloodghast

, Vampire Nighthawk

, or Vampire Nocturnus

would be good calls for you. That, and a lot of good Vampire cards are really heavy black, which makes it hard to run them in conjunction with white.

Without knowing some of the previously listed factors, I can't really be of much help. You might consider looking into some decks like BW Tokens, which is currently seeing play in standard. It'll give you a good idea of what you should be aiming for; token production and support backed up with bits of spot removal

for control

.

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mmademonhaze25

Date Joined: Jan 25, 2012

Posts: 15

Yeah man, actualy im looking to make a tournament worthy deck. Im pretty sure b\w tokens with sorin and archangel tomb could actualy be competitive. Im going to try at least. Budget is around 100 but I want some other cards from new set also. Like I said il explain my idea with a card list shortly

mmademonhaze25

Date Joined: Jan 25, 2012

Posts: 15

4 thraben doomsayer, 2 skirsdag flayer, 2 skirsdag high priest, 2 lord of lineage, 1 reaper of the abyss, 1 sorin, lord of innistrad,

mmademonhaze25

Date Joined: Jan 25, 2012

Posts: 15

4 champion of the parish, spells unknown?

Echo_Robin

Date Joined: Mar 12, 2011

Posts: 1,923

Okay, so your current deck looks like this:

4x Thraben Doomsayer

4x Champion of the Parish

2x Skirsdag Flayer

2x Skirsdag High Priest

2x Lord of Lineage

1x Reaper from the Abyss

1x Sorin, Lord of Innistrad

Alright, first off, you'll want to lose the Flayer

, Lord of Lineage

, and probably Reaper from the Abyss

. They're simply too slow for the Modern environment. You'll be dealing with Zoo, Affinity, Storm, and Exarch-Twin decks, which are all quite fast. You may need to drop the Skirsdag High Priest

as well.

It's a bit difficult making WB fit the modern profile. So I'll just give you a basic model to work off of. You can sort of piece something together by just utilizing the deck skeleton below.

Removal Show

You're going to need to kill stuff. That's a given. Lucky for you, White and Black have some of the best removal available in Modern. It's not cheap, but it'll keep you alive long enough to actually get around to doing some damage.

Dismember

Among these you'll probably want to go with Dismember

and Path to Exile

. The others are okay budget options, but they'll never be as good as those two, except Smother

which warrants a second look simply because it can kill a lot of what you'll be facing, especially in Zoo and Affinity. You can use Celestial Purge

in your sideboard, but you may be better off saving those slots for something else.

Control Options Show

I don't think you can race Affinity, and I really don't think you can race Zoo. So, instead of racing them you might consider going with a more control-oriented deck, which will have a much better chance of restraining you opponent's long enough for you to actually establish some board position.

Discard:

Despise

Duress

Thoughtseize

Inquisition of Kozilek

If you go the discard route, Inquisition of Kozilek

is the best budget option alongside Duress

, though Thoughtseize

will always be the best choice, though it the furthest thing from budget friendly, so that is likely not an option for you.

Wrath Effects:

Another good option is to simply punish decks that utilize lots of low-cost, early game creatures by running effects like Wrath of God

to wipe out everything they've got. You'll probably be in better shape to recover post- Wrath

than most other decks you'll play.

Wrath of God

Day of Judgment

Damnation

I didn't bother listing any others, because they're all pretty much not worth it when compared to these four. Wrath of God

or Damnation

are your best bets, but their bother fairly expensive, so Day of Judgment

is a perfectly suitable replacement since it's much cheaper and functionally almost the same.

Other:

Oblivion Ring

Kitchen Finks

I'm listing these under control options because that's where I feel they belong. The Ring

is one of the better removal/control cards you can run, and you should definitely consider either splashing it into your sideboard if not running one or two maindeck. Kitchen Finks

is the bane of aggro decks. It doesn't really match the theme of your deck, but it is something to keep in mind anyway, just because it's that awesome.

Tokens Show

Production:

Since I know what you're aiming for now (competitive Modern) I'll be able to better suggest cards for this particular avenue.

Lingering Souls

Timely Reinforcements

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Lingering Souls

is going to be an absolute must. Being able to flash it back means you'll have extra attacker/blockers which will be important if you're going to survive until late game. Besides Lingering Souls

, it's a bit more up the in air. Timely Reinforcements

is a great control card, giving you both tokens and life. It makes good sideboard material if nothing else. The other options are all good, though I'm not really sure which one to choose. Probably not Gather the Townsfolk

but the other two are both solid. Beckon Apparition

is a good, low-cost token producer that also deals with annoying things in an opponent's graveyard.

Support:

Honor of the Pure

Intangible Virtue

Leyline of the Meek

Hard to tell if you need these or not. Honor of the Pure

can also boost your nontoken creatures, while Intangible Virtue

allows you to go on the offense while still having blockers to keep yourself safe. If you were to use either of them, I'd go with Intangible Virtue

, since the vigilance is going to help quite a bit. Leyline of the Meek

is good too, though if you can't get one out with the opening hand ability it can be a bit of a letdown.

Other:

Elspeth Tirel

Elspeth, Knight-Errant

Both Elspeth's have always been firm supporters of token/weenie decks. If you were to include one, I'd use Elspeth Tirel

, since she is a more control-oriented card option, and she better supports your token theme.

Creatures Show

Doomed Traveler

A solid 1-drop that can provide you two blockers or an attacker that turns into a flying attacker when it dies.

Geist-Honored Monk

Good token producer that also doubles as a solid finisher, thanks to its ability to get very large in conjunction your token production.

Blade Splicer

Similar to Geist-Honored Monk

except it hits the field earlier. Not sure if its viable, but I thought I should list it anyway.

Hero of Bladehold

A good finisher and token producer that also boosts all your tokens when it attacks. A nice option all around.

Thraben Doomsayer

A bit slow, but it can be powerful, though I don't like relying on faithful hour, since a lot of decks can kill you when you're at five or less life without much trouble.

Soul Warden

/ Soul's Attendant

Great option against any creature heavy deck, plus they work great in conjunction with tokens.

Lands Show

Apart from the obvious Plains

and Swamp

, there are a couple things you might consider.

Marsh Flats

You should run four of these. If you can't afford them now, make sure to get them later.

Isolated Chapel

You should run four of these. If you can't afford them now, make sure to get them later.

Godless Shrine

You should run four of these. If you can't afford them now, make sure to get them later.

Vault of the Archangel

You probably want one or two of these. They'll make your tokens that much more dangerous.

Windbrisk Heights

You should run four of these. They're great in token decks and can let you cast free spells.

So, to summarize all of this, here's a vaguely assembled deck list. This is, of course, just a suggestion and is far from what you can, or necessarily should, run. Just keep in mind that you'll want to think about something like this when you start building your deck.

Creatures:

1x Geist-Honored Monk

2x Hero of Bladehold

4x Soul Warden

/ Soul's Attendant

Other Spells:

3x Beckon Apparition

2x Dismember

4x Gather the Townsfolk

4x Intangible Virtue

3x Leyline of the Meek