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1 year ago ::
Jan 25, 2012 - 1:19PM
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Can you pay 0 to cast Gravecrawler from the Graveyard with Rooftop Storm  out?
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1 year ago ::
Jan 25, 2012 - 1:22PM
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Sure.
Storm only cares that you are casting a zombie spell, it doesn't care where you cast it from.
… and then, the squirrels came.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 25, 2012 - 1:23PM
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Thought so! Just wanted to clarify, thanks!
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6 months ago ::
Nov 26, 2012 - 4:16PM
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Nov 26, 2012
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I am sorry to "flashback" an old post from the graveyard, but another ruling I had contact with recently has cause me to rethink this. That ruling was regarding Epic Expirement and Overload. The ruling said that you cannot pay for overload from within the Epic Experiment because you can only choose one alternate casting cost per spell. Is this not the same thing?
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6 months ago ::
Nov 26, 2012 - 4:17PM
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next time please create a new thread with Rooftop Storm you cannot use alternative costs Gravecrawler  doesn't have an alternative cost, it just allows you to cast it from a different zone
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6 months ago ::
Nov 26, 2012 - 4:18PM
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no you are not paying an alternate cost for the gravecrawler  you are simply casting it from a place other than your hand.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 26, 2012 - 4:28PM
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Nov 26, 2012
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That makes more sense, if it was flashback instead of it's current wording, it would not work right? By that logic you cannot cast zombies that have flash via rooftop storm during the other players turn?
edit: wait I guess thats the same thing so you CAN flash zombies...
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6 months ago ::
Nov 26, 2012 - 4:29PM
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Gravecaller allows you to cast it from an unusual place. 111.1. A spell is a card on the stack. As the first step of being cast (...), the card (...) is moved to the top of the stack from the zone it was in, which is usually its owner’s hand...
Rooftop provides an alternative cost.
117.9. Some spells have alternative costs. ( ... ) Alternative costs are usually phrased, “You may [action] rather than pay [this object’s] mana cost”…
601.2. To cast a spell... 601.2b (...) the player announces his or her intentions to pay (...) costs (...). A player can’t apply (...) two alternative costs to a single spell...
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Sounds familiar?
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6 months ago ::
Nov 26, 2012 - 4:31PM
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Jul 28, 2010
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That makes more sense, if it was flashback instead of it's current wording, it would not work right? By that logic you cannot cast zombies that have flash via rooftop storm during the other players turn?
edit: wait I guess thats the same thing so you CAN flash zombies...
Flash is also not an alternative cost
it just allows you to cast it at an unusual time, just like Gravecrawler allows you to cast it from an unusual place
an example of an alternative cost would be Evoke
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