This thread is for discussion of this week's Savor the Flavor, which goes live Wednesday morning on magicthegathering.com.
Very interesting response to the letter, other than that an alright article but nothing amazing.
In reading about Avacyn's creation, I keep finding myself wondering one thing: was the church (or at least the really high-ranking clergy) aware of Avacyn's artificial nature? And if so, were they aware of the identity of her progenitor?
Don't dis the "little toe" as some unimportant body part. Without it, people walk awfully strange. It seems small, but it's incredibly important and underappreciated.
It's nice to see that even pre-mending walkers had their limits and creating Avacyn was a stretch even for Sorin Markov.
My question is whether post-mending Sorin is now less powerful than his own angelic masterwork. That could lead to some rather interesting interactions depending on how Avacyn views her progenitor.
I would also like to entertain the notion that instead of giving up part of himself Sorin had to gain something, something akin to a soul. My theory's a little out there I'll admit but I rather like the flavourful implications. A creature of darkness moved to make a deal with the angels (so to speak) out of cold logic. The Faustian deal to allow one's self to be corrupted for the greater good is a powerful trope, but the reverse is something I've never encountered before and it raises all sorts of tricky moral questions. From now on I'm using this rationale to justify less-than-vile acts Sorin may commit.
TPmanW: I like that thought. Avacyn did seem to be the real deal: actually altruistic, as opposed to Angel of Despair . Just like how an artist can only create beauty if they have it in their heart, perhaps Sorin had to open himself up to a epiphany in order to create Avacyn. Either that, or he was the beggar who killed Serra and Avacyn is just her zombie.
With regards to the Letter of the Week, the only analogy I could draw is that Sorin won the Multiversal equivalent of the Magic Invitational.
I would argue that Magic has several examples of spells cast at great cost . Seriously, that's not at all a non-magical concept, you just have to view it from the perspective of having to sacrifice resources in a single game.
So we have confirmation Sorin was a pre-mending 'walker. I really want to see the interaction between Avacyn and Sorin now, especially because, as a poster above pointed out, she's probably more powerful than he is now. That sounds like it could lead to a very interetsing relationship between the two.
Bonus points if Sorin forgot to ensure Avacyn knew who he was.
I liked the article; it's news to me that Avacyn is trapped in a rock.
Odd how short our memories are these days. Has everyone but me forgotten that Sorin was among the planeswalkers who crafted the Eye of Ugin, the spiritual prison that shackled the Eldrazi on Zendikar, millennia ago? Eye of Ugin is Legendary, so clearly creating it was also a "once only spell". And clearly, a planeswalker can do multiple such tremendous acts in their lifetime.
Other examples include, obviously, Serra's realm; Karn creating Mirrodin and turning the Mirari into Memnarch; Urza creating Karn himself, the one and only truly sentient artificial being that we know of, as well as the unprecedented feat of transferring his spark to that being; Teferi's noble sacrifice of his spark to help save Dominaria; Liliana's veil-wrought curse upon Garruk (it was strong enough to permanently alter his form and color allegiance), and Bolas's creation of his own pocket plane (remember Bolas's Meditation Realm from Planechase?) and re-engineering the beaten husk of an Esperite named Tezzeret into a new and improved Planeswalker with an altered color allegiance.
Turns out such titanic, once-ever magic is something most planeswalkers try their hand at eventually, given enough time. What I'd like to see someday is a card or location that represents the failure of such an attempt: a botched or abandoned "planar spell" (my name; "Epic" is already taken).
@Dragon_Nut: she may be more powerful / be represented by a higher mana cost, but she will still just be Legendary Creature - Angel (maybe Angel Warrior or Angel Cleric), and he will still be a Planeswalker. Yeah, maybe she can deplete his Loyalty in one swing. But story-wise, all that represents is that Sorin has taken enough pain / done enough work that he's lost interest and decided to 'walk away, where she can never catch him. PW > Creature, always and forever, and relative numeric power levels in the card game has no bearing on it. :P
All this is nice...but why would Sorin ever let the other Vampires find out he created an archangel to combat them in the first place?
That's a good point... but i think he just doesnt CARE. He's 100000+ times more powerful, and feels like they've been lording it over the humans too long. and I honestly think he feels BAD that his grandfather caused all the problems (or at least most) on innistrad. So he's going to fix it, and **** what the others think.
Creating all-powerful angels seems to actually be a pretty common experience. Ixidor busted out an Akroma Angel of Wrath without even being a planeswalker. When it comes to stomping the dark-mana out of a demon, Akroma is probably the angel to get it done.
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