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1 year ago  ::  Jan 20, 2012 - 2:55PM #1
Garmichael
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Making Magic, which goes live Monday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 22, 2012 - 9:19PM #2
evouga
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Mark, one of the cards you didn't mention that I'm most curious about is Grafdigger's Cage . Obviously it interacts with Flashback, which is relevant in-block, but the additional text about libraries strikes me as specifically designed for Vintage -- in particular, it hoses Tinker and Yawgmoth's Will , perhaps the two biggest R&D "mistakes." Was this intentional?
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 22, 2012 - 9:31PM #3
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The developer chat said the library text was for Birthing Pod .

Maro, I get the idea behind tokens having only one type, but every single card that makes raceless tokens has humans in the art on both the card itself and the tokens. Humans are being treated like they aren't a real race, as they were pre-Mirrodin. Especially now that humans have tribal relevance, the fact that the Hero of Bladehold 's soldiers are apparently not fellow Auriok feels weird and wrong. Humans should be treated the same as every other race, even on tokens.
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 22, 2012 - 10:06PM #4
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So for you to be continuing tonight's column as well as heeding the theme week, that makes it... "Design Week?"

Also, thanks for teasing about AVR with the whole Helvault blurb.  Sleepless nights ahoy.  :|   (Not really, but you get my point.)
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 22, 2012 - 10:33PM #5
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Jan 22, 2012 -- 9:19PM, evouga wrote:

Mark, one of the cards you didn't mention that I'm most curious about is Grafdigger's Cage . Obviously it interacts with Flashback, which is relevant in-block, but the additional text about libraries strikes me as specifically designed for Vintage -- in particular, it hoses Tinker and Yawgmoth's Will , perhaps the two biggest R&D "mistakes." Was this intentional?




MaRo didn't really have anything to do with the cage, it was made from skratch in development.

I have to give props to creative for crushing vines, even though it's a "no flavor" card, they gave it such awesome flavor text that it gets vorthos like me excited.

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Dec 30, 2011 -- 6:01PM, Yanmato1 wrote:

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Trolljuju wiped the sweat from his brow as he continued his slow trudge up the snowy mountain. The wind was strong and fiercely cold, but he pressed against it. Juju knew Beast Engine was somewhere at the peak, waiting for him. But this was not a matter of confronting the forces of nature themselves; that had been accomplished long before, and was now too easy to maintain the manly man's interest. Today, Beast Engine was here waiting for a friend.

Trolljuju's mind drifted from his appointment to thoughts of Beast Engine's manliness. The only man in history to punch the fossilized remains of a dinosaur back to life just to punch it to death again. The man who deflected bullets with his pectoral muscles during his daily assassination attempts. The man who cured cancer with a serum made from pure crystalized virility. The man who burst with vigor. Not just a man but a Man- the manliest of all men. A god of masculinity in physical form.

Trolljuju's heart fluttered at the memory of him and lightened his steps as he pressed on.

Suddenly, he was shaken from his reverie by a deep, powerful rumble in the mountain that shook him to his core. Instinctively, he threw himself to the ground just before the slope ahead of him exploded in a fiery wall of light and heat. So great was the force that the entire upper section of the mountain was vaproized. It scorched Juju's coat, then rose on the air to drift far away, a plume of white-hot ash. When Trolljuju lifted his head to see what was left behind, he beheld a wide, perfectly flat stone plateau, and in the distance he could see a muscular figure, his foot still held up from the kick. There was no doubt it was Beast Engine.

As soon as the ground beneath him cooled, Juju cast his heavy pack aside and ran. As the figure grew with closeness, he could see Beast Engine was nude, as was expected. The snow that fell near him turned to a thin wall of steam, looking to Trolljuju's eyes like a barrier. Engine was too strong, too manly to occupy the same space as the ordinary universe. He lived in a world all his own. But fortunately for Juju, it was only an illusion. He ran at full speed into Engine, who caught him with both arms and effortlessly twirled with him, resting with Juju dipped low to the ground in Engine's arms.

"Beast Engine, my love," Trolljuju breathed, sturck with awe at Engine's masculine beauty despite the familiarity of his face.
Engine just smiled, radiating from every inch of him with incredible strength, yet gentle warmth.
"It's been so long, Juju. I've missed you."
"Forgive me. I lost contact with you while you were boxing with Death to win back and consume the soul of Theodore Roosevelt. But now I'm here..."
Juju lifted one tentative hand to Engine's face, but he pulled away.
"You know I cannot give you what you seek. Were we to make love, your body would be destroyed by the force."
"I know, of course I would," Juju responded, tears in his eyes. "May I have, at least, one kiss?"
"Very well. For you, my friend."
Slowly, gingerly, they came closer. But the moment their lips met, a flood of unbridled manliness rushed into Trolljuju, body and soul, and every cell in his body exploded.

Beast Engine fell to his knees, and in his grief, he wept. The tears that fell from his face burned deep into the rock beneath him. But slowly, his sorrow turned to conviction.

He beat the crap out of Death once. He could do it again.

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1 year ago  ::  Jan 22, 2012 - 10:44PM #6
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Maro teasing us about an upcoming set?  Never.  Couldn't be.  :D

I like the idea behind the Captain cycle, but the Immerwolf doesn't read as an alpha wolf (especially since it prevents transforming), especially with other more explicit alpha's from Innistrad.

As for the PvZ fans commenting on the zombie plant, having played the heck out of PvZ the Zombies won a ton of times when I was playing... way more times than the Plants did, even though the photosynthesizing tribe eventually did drive them off... but to find out if Innistrad plants ultimately triumph, we'll have to wait for AVR.
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 22, 2012 - 10:46PM #7
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I just read through the complete spoiler list, and Dark Ascension looks awesome! Couple of questions/comments (related to your column):

1. What in the world is that thing on Artful Dodge ? Some sort of alien zombie monkey?

2. I'm normally good at this, but Immerwolf being part of the captain cycle went completely over my head.

3a. Is Elbrus the sword from the viral email story about the cathar who gets kicked out of the Church when he realizes his boss is a demon worshipper

3b. Withengar is awesome! I love the multiplayer ability.

4. Red looting: discard, then draw?

5. Oh no. Somebody breaks the Helvault ! I'm guessing it was Liliana Vess ? She's evil like that.
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 22, 2012 - 10:48PM #8
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Jan 22, 2012 -- 10:33PM, Trolljuju wrote:

Jan 22, 2012 -- 9:19PM, evouga wrote:

Mark, one of the cards you didn't mention that I'm most curious about is Grafdigger's Cage . Obviously it interacts with Flashback, which is relevant in-block, but the additional text about libraries strikes me as specifically designed for Vintage -- in particular, it hoses Tinker and Yawgmoth's Will , perhaps the two biggest R&D "mistakes." Was this intentional?




MaRo didn't really have anything to do with the cage, it was made from skratch in development.

I have to give props to creative for crushing vines, even though it's a "no flavor" card, they gave it such awesome flavor text that it gets vorthos like me excited.




As for the Vines, I agree. The Flavor is solid, but I do think it's kind of funny that a card initially devoid of any creative logic (hmm, is that an oxymoron?) came from the Flavor-Happy-Top-Down-Funzone of Innistrad.

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1 year ago  ::  Jan 22, 2012 - 10:58PM #9
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Jan 22, 2012 -- 10:46PM, dude1818 wrote:


I just read through the complete spoiler list, and Dark Ascension looks awesome! Couple of questions/comments (related to your column):

1. What in the world is that thing on Artful Dodge ? Some sort of alien zombie monkey?

2. I'm normally good at this, but Immerwolf being part of the captain cycle went completely over my head.

3a. Is Elbrus the sword from the viral email story about the cathar who gets kicked out of the Church when he realizes his boss is a demon worshipper

3b. Withengar is awesome! I love the multiplayer ability.

4. Red looting: discard, then draw?

5. Oh no. Somebody breaks the Helvault ! I'm guessing it was Liliana Vess ? She's evil like that.




1. It looks like a wolf, being magicky-magic'ed.
2. Me too. Though you can kind of see it in the mechanics.
3a. Good thinking!  I bet it is.
3b. I agree. Sometimes you just have to print cool stuff like "whenever a player loses" or "destroy all humans" as is.
4. That doesn't seem likely... it would sure be red-like, but probably wouldn't pass the "unfun" sniff test.  Maybe random discard?
5. It's either of the Walkers... Lili in order to release the Demon she's hunting, or Sorin Spoiler: Show

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1 year ago  ::  Jan 22, 2012 - 10:58PM #10
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Wow I love Black Cat . It's like, oozing . It even feels Blacker than Phyrexian Obliterator to me! Right now it's one of my favourite Dark Ascension cards. You just can't not love a Zombie Cat!

Also, upon seeing the Legendary Sword that turns into a demon card, the only thing I could think was: "Thank God Stoneforge Mystic is banned!". Just thinking of what the 2 cards could do together is scary D: turn 3 trample, intimidate, flying 13/13 ahoy!

I really, really love the dual colour lands cycle, and the Dark Ascension ones are very cool. The enables morbid and I think will see a lot of play, there are so many interactions with creatures that like to die with it. Plus it's instant speed so you can use it mid-combat or at the end of the opponents turn if you feel like doing so. The one is also really nice, should be killer in token decks (which have gotten so many cool tools in the last 2 sets). So now the missing 3 that will be in Avacyn Restored are the , and ones. Hmmmm, I wonder what they'll do.

Overall, I really love the DA cards, but there's only one aspect I feel was kind of average. Spirits. Sure, there are cool spirits but to bind them with the tap/untap mechanic seems kind of unexciting to me... Plus despite having one of the most badass artworks, the Spirit lord, Drogskol Captain could be so cooler. Right now it's just a Lord of the Unreal with flying, which I find kind of meh since the Illusion lord is such a new addition to Magic.

ALSO, (kind of unrelated to this article) but Alpha Brawl is like, the manliest Magic card ever!

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Nov 27, 2012 -- 6:39AM, Mata_Hari wrote:

Nov 27, 2012 -- 12:26AM, BankaiMastery wrote:

Okay, here is the clincher. I've been waiting to say this.

The "cam girl" this was inspired by was just a girl from a social networking website, Stickam. Her name was TinyTerror and she was just a regular girl who was on her webcam, totally unrelated to any type of adult content.

I hope you all feel really smart now.

This is like someone coming into class with a bloody nose and everyone's like "Jeez what happened to you" and they're like "I ran into a wall" and everyone laughs at them for being an idiot but then at the end of the class they say "HAHA JUST KIDDING I PUNCHED MYSELF IN THE FACE!!!!!! TALK ABOUT OWNED HAHAHAHAHA"


Oct 25, 2012 -- 9:53PM, magicpablo666 wrote:

I really enjoy imagining this from Kevin's perspective. Because in Kevin's world, Rosewater actually reads everything he types. Mark is sitting there right now, reading this, and thinking "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled. . ." Or some such. He chuckles low, then clicks on "The Best Of KEVINSET" and says "Yes, this'll do just fine. A busty lady with banding who deals direct damage to Zones!? Why this will be the star of my next set, and no one will ever believe you Kevin." Then he closes his Macbook, so his servant may move it out of the way, while another servant puts a Fetal Richard Garfield Clone lathered in Steak Sauce in front of him. Then Mark Feasts.


Sorin walked into the chamber where his newly wed bride, Vampy, awaited. A beam of moonlight illuminated his brilliant silver hair as he strode with confidence towards the bed. His shirtless body showcased his powerful abdominal muscles and he was wearing jeans with holes in the knees.


Nov 24, 2012 -- 8:07PM, felisdomesticus wrote:

Nov 24, 2012 -- 7:19PM, CherylCheryl wrote:

I wish more girls play magic cards...


Have you considered assassinating Kevin?

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