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1 year ago  ::  Jan 19, 2012 - 9:04AM #1
Ichibann
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Stomping Ground is a land with two basic land types.
How does it look like?
The remainder text is: : Add or to your mana pool.
I think this should be considered as:
: Add to your mana pool.
: Add to your mana pool.
Which is true? Will it ever make a difference?

Consider hypothetical card:
~
Creature - Shapeshifter
As ~ enters the battlefield, you may choose a creature. If you do, ~ gains one of that creature's activated abilities of your choice.
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We have Awakener Druid and Stomping Ground affected by him on the battlefield.
~ enters the battlefield.
What mana can it produce?
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 19, 2012 - 9:18AM #2
IronMagus
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Reminder text is just that, a reminder.  It's there to help you remember what the rule is, but isn't itself the actual rule.  A land with the "Mountain" land type has the inherent ability ": Add to your mana pool."  A land with the "Forest" land type has the inherent ability ": Add to your mana pool."  A land with both types therefore has both abilities.  They are two separate abilities, so your hypothetical card that copies one ability could only produce mana of one color or the other this way.

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1 year ago  ::  Jan 19, 2012 - 9:21AM #3
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You are correct.  It is two separate activated abilities.  Your hypothetical card would only be able to produce one of those colors.
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 19, 2012 - 9:25AM #4
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Is there any real card that would need this clarification?
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 19, 2012 - 9:31AM #5
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I can't think of one.  Anything that deals with abilities (gains abilities of other cards, removes abilities from other cards) either deals with specific keyword abilities ("target creature loses flying," for example, or Cairn Wanderer , Concerted Effort , etc.), or else just says "all [...] abilities" ( loses all abilities , loses all landwalk abilities, gains all activated abilities , etc.).
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 19, 2012 - 9:31AM #6
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No, there are no real cards that only disable some of a given card's activated abilities.

Drought is probably the closest, since it can affect different activated abilities on the same card differently, but both activated abilities on Stomping Ground (and all similar cards) have the same cost.
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 19, 2012 - 9:32AM #7
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Jan 19, 2012 -- 9:25AM, Ichibann wrote:

Is there any real card that would need this clarification?



A quick Gatherer search says no, but there's always the possibility that I missed something.

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1 year ago  ::  Jan 19, 2012 - 9:34AM #8
LunaStik
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I think the closest is Experiment Kraj . But it gains all activated abilities, so it is moot.

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The beauty of sarcasm is that when the person using it is totally incorrect, you can just remove the sarcasm and end up with a post that is actually correct.

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1 year ago  ::  Jan 19, 2012 - 9:01PM #9
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Your ~ can't produce any mana.  

Stomping Ground produces and but it not a basic land per Gatherer ruling. Awakener Druid only affects Forests (which is a basic land) by turning them in creatures and also keeps it a land.  Stomping Ground isn't a Forest, so it can't be a creature.  And because there aren't any creatures with activated abilities, ~ can't target a creature that has activated abilities, so it can't generate mana.

If I'm wrong someone please, please. please let me know.  I'm a newb, but don't want to be a n00b.
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 19, 2012 - 9:43PM #10
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Jan 19, 2012 -- 9:01PM, DirtyElf wrote:


Your ~ can't produce any mana.  

Stomping Ground produces and but it not a basic land per Gatherer ruling. Awakener Druid only affects Forests (which is a basic land) by turning them in creatures and also keeps it a land.  Stomping Ground isn't a Forest, so it can't be a creature.  And because there aren't any creatures with activated abilities, ~ can't target a creature that has activated abilities, so it can't generate mana.

If I'm wrong someone please, please. please let me know.  I'm a newb, but don't want to be a n00b.




Lol Stomping Ground is a forest and mountain at the same time.  I'm sure Awakener Druid affects it because it doesn't specify that it only affects a basic land named Forest .  but rather just Forest in general.

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