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1 year ago  ::  Jan 19, 2012 - 11:35AM #21
Qmark
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Jan 19, 2012 -- 5:07AM, Amarsir wrote:

I'm a little surprised they didn't just go with "can't block", which is a comparable but stronger and more direct version of "ETBT".


Is "can't block" actuallystronger?

  • ETBT on a creature is really little more than un-haste (or super summoning sickness) in most cases.  Pretty much all it does is say "this dude can't block on your opponent's next turn, and giving it haste is not a very good idea."
  • In contrast, "can't block" may as well be Juggernaut 's drawback, more or less.  If you're not attacking with it, it's essentially a dead card, with the only real advantage over Juggy being the ability to not attack into an obvious suicide situation.
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 19, 2012 - 11:47AM #22
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Jan 19, 2012 -- 11:35AM, Qmark wrote:

Jan 19, 2012 -- 5:07AM, Amarsir wrote:

I'm a little surprised they didn't just go with "can't block", which is a comparable but stronger and more direct version of "ETBT".


Is "can't block" actuallystronger?




"Stronger effect", not "stronger card". 


CIPT is a thing on zombies in Innistrad though. See Diregraf Ghoul etc. I guess Gravecrawler breaks that pattern though.



Didn't care enough to check the type line, but that's a fair point.  I don't think it entirely negates my reasoning, but it makes sense.

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1 year ago  ::  Jan 19, 2012 - 2:04PM #23
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Jan 19, 2012 -- 8:50AM, tobormax wrote:

This article seems engineered to get people excited for a card that doesn't seem all that exciting to me.



Welcome to merchandising.

As for the card, yea, it really isn't opposite and equal to Kitchen Finks . The Finks is a great defensive creature, but the Messenger isn't that offensive. CIPT really hurts this guy in my opinion, (as said, it happens again when he undies). 
 
As they say Offense is the best defense, and sometimes you're really gonna wanna block with this guy. 

Or was it defense is the best offense?... Now I'm confused....

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1 year ago  ::  Jan 19, 2012 - 2:19PM #24
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Jan 19, 2012 -- 9:35AM, Jman22 wrote:

I feel tobormax is the only one who really sees this for what it is- Flores hyping up another overall lackluster card. I remember when Chandra 3 was previewed by him people were frothing at the mouth, and even worse was his hyping of Everflowing Chalice. Now, I understand this is his job, but its important to keep things in context.



Chalice is a baller, how dare you.

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1 year ago  ::  Jan 19, 2012 - 3:01PM #25
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Incidentally, Conley Woods is calling this "better than Negator ever was" (ie. the best black three-drop ever, basically). Just in case anyone was thinking only scrubs are interesting in the card.
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