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1 year ago ::
Jan 11, 2012 - 12:59AM
#41
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Why is it possible for Sorin to kill Nicol Bolas?
Or, how can he, when Bolas is the supreme bad guy in this thing?
That, or 3 planeswalkers at once?
Not even Bolas can do that.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 11, 2012 - 1:07AM
#42
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Love the card, although I can see why people would be depressed that Sorin makes tokens. Elspeth won't be in Standard forever, though. As to the color flavor, it makes perfect sense. While Sorin isn't necessarily good, he certainly undestand that balance needs to be maintained on Innistrad. If all the humans are left to die on the plane, the Vampires, his people, will have nothing feed on. They'll either turn on each other (as mentioned in the article), or be rolled over by the werewolves, zombies, and demons. Sorin is arguing for the sustainable farming on a natural resource. So I see nothing wrong with the inclusion of White in his casting cost, since white is all about balance and fairness. As for the card, I can easily see a WB Token deck entering into standard. Doomed Traveler  Skirsdag High-Priest  Gather the Townsfolk  Midnight Haunting  Intangible Virtue  Increasing Devotion  Mausoleum Gurad  And now Sorin. All the deck really needs is a new one drop on the level of Doomed Traveler and I think it could be constructed playable.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 11, 2012 - 2:12AM
#43
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Jan 13, 2008
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I love this reveal. Even in the paragraph before the video, I was thinking the thing being implied was definitely that Sorin created Innistrad's moon, source of holy silver, associated with Avacyn, the herons, etc. Then, the truth -- so unexpected! Amazing! The backstory is pretty great too. I always liked Sorin's style, but this adds so much more. That sort of tragic heroism is rich territory for a character. (Though for Sorin, I feel like I'd need to qualify it as " semi-tragic quasi-heroism".) For example, I'm a big fan of the show Supernatural, and Sorin has a pretty similar-sounding arc to a character from it: the angel Castiel. Not to get too spoiler-y, but he turns his back on his fellow angels (ensuring his outcast status) to ensure the safety of mere humans facing apocalyptic odds, and does it for complicated & somewhat selfish reasons. And to top off the comparisons, the body he walks around in used to just be a regular mortal Joe, before he got promoted to angelic vessel... Maybe there's some fans in Creative, too? Nah, probably just that Monomyth again.  But for reals. Hearing the words "Avacyn, my angel... what has befallen you?" from Sorin's mouth just takes Innistrad to the next level of awesome. I am excite.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 11, 2012 - 2:29AM
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This card is awesome. I secretly hoped that the new Sorin would be black/white but didn't thought that would actually happen. Seeing it now, really surprised me. Black/White is a color-combination that needed some more love  they can be just as dutiful as the White-Aligned; this is the whole reason there are Black Knights, as opposed to just armored sword-wielding killers on horseback.
I agree with everything you said but this part. Black Knight  s in magic are typically flavored as knights that have abandoned their duty and fight for the sake of fighting, so pretty much the opposite of what you said.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 11, 2012 - 3:14AM
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Date Joined:
Jan 11, 2012
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So to fight the famine (which was killing people), Sorin's grandpa decided to make people drink blood... Which comes from humans (yeah, there are animals as well, but who the hell would drink their blood, when you have humans around?), which means killing people.
BRILLIANT! This couldn't possibly backfire at all!
Okay, that part of the flavor sucks. Everything else, including Sorin as a card - great. Keep up the good work. Innistrad is my favorite block flavor-wise since Kamigawa.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 11, 2012 - 3:59AM
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I must say, the justification for thw  is a bit weak and easily overlapped with modern  , but since this is only a thing that happens in Innistrad it doesn't have a lot of consequences for Sorin's future appearences. Besides, vampires creating angels. Very f*cking awesome.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 11, 2012 - 4:06AM
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I must say, the justification for thw is a bit weak and easily overlapped with modern , but since this is only a thing that happens in Innistrad it doesn't have a lot of consequences for Sorin's future appearences.
Besides, vampires creating angels. Very f*cking awesome.
Why is that? Creating and restoring order sounds pretty to me.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 11, 2012 - 4:38AM
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Jun 16, 2010
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Very interesting card. Quick question: does the emblem ability stack? That is, if you use his -2 ability twice, would your creatures get +2/+0? I can't think of any rules reason why that wouldn't work, but that could become a bookkeeping problem. All emblems so far have been binary, on-or-off things with such a big impact on the game that it would be hard to forget them. And most of them would be redundant (indestructibility or giving a tap ability to lands), so stacking isn't an issue. (I guess this same question could be asked about Venser's, but it's so powerful by itself that who cares, and costs so much that using it twice isn't an issue anyway.) It's pretty plausible, though, that this emblem could be used twice or more in a game, which could cause problems. Well, plausible, but not likely. I'd much rather use his -6 ability once than his -2 ability three times. But it's more plausible than ever before, so I wondered. Oh, and I really like the wording on Sorin's last ability. It's pretty similar mechanically to the much shorter phrase, "Gain control of up to three target creatures and/or planeswalkers," but having them actually destroyed and brought back gives a whole new level of badassery to the ability.
True, but it's worth noting that that would make it much better. (Part of why I'd say that this card is not overpowered.) The printed version of his ability can't gain control of anything that's indestructible, regenerates, gets shuffled into the library instead of being put into the graveyard, etc.
I must say, the justification for thw is a bit weak and easily overlapped with modern , but since this is only a thing that happens in Innistrad it doesn't have a lot of consequences for Sorin's future appearences.
Besides, vampires creating angels. Very f*cking awesome.
I thought it the white connection was a bit weak myself. Lifelink is shared by black and white, and "creatures you control get x" is generally white but then again "+x/+0" is more black, and again white and black share getting creatures back from the graveyard but this is a very blackish version of it.
Well, at least there is some white connection; it's not like he's dealing direct damage or something. And token-making is more white than black too. And they don't seem to worry as much about mechanical color identities with named characters with big backstories. He's definitely white in the storyline, and if his mana cost should actually be    or even to reflect that he's not as white as he is black, well, that's a tweak-the-numbers-in-development decision.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 11, 2012 - 4:38AM
#49
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Because this change coincides with personal emotional feelings. Granted, it can be constructed as a sense of order rather than emotions.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 11, 2012 - 4:53AM
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Because this change coincides with personal emotional feelings. Granted, it can be constructed as a sense of order rather than emotions.
I think the reasoning behind his deeds aren't his emotions. Its not like he feels sorry for the humans. He neither favors his brethren vampires nor the humans. He just wanted the plane to be in balance and therefore created avacyn to prevent the humans from being extinct (that would also be bad for the vampires as well). So definitely more white than red.
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