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1 year ago ::
Jan 06, 2012 - 12:35PM
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Making Magic, which goes live Monday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 08, 2012 - 9:18PM
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Date Joined:
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I literally shouted at my computer "Just use Mind Control  !" Well, there was some profanity too. For something as anticipated as non-creature DFC? I am severely disappointed.
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You're the straightest shooter I know on these boards. You don't mince words about your opinions, and I respect that about you. The whole fiasco you described in the last State of the CO Forum was particularly enlightening (and kind of disappointing with regards to how they see us).
Ah, Tsuyo. When your post isn't one sentence long full of asterisks, you have much wisdom to share with us  .
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1 year ago ::
Jan 08, 2012 - 9:21PM
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You know, this very much reminds me of the Licids. This could be a possible way to bring them back. I always thought they had a good niche.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 08, 2012 - 9:29PM
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Date Joined:
May 18, 2002
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You know, this very much reminds me of the Licids. This could be a possible way to bring them back. I always thought they had a good niche.
They'd have to be something else. Errata'ing an existing card to suddenly be a DFC would be a nightmare.
Additionally, there's a very real possibility DFCs will disappear after this block, and not be seen again until someone gets the idea to try a Timespiral/Chronicles thing again.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 08, 2012 - 9:31PM
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Date Joined:
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Thalakos Deceiver  rides again! RE: licids. I think DFC is the best way available today to do it. If an enchantment block came around, they should definately consider it, as it would be a good way to insert more auras without taking away from creatures.
'I have had players complain about having extra rares in a pack. I’ve had players complain about getting free things. I have had players complain because they liked something “too much”.' - Mark Rosewater's Twitter, May 7th, 2013
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1 year ago ::
Jan 08, 2012 - 9:33PM
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Date Joined:
Nov 18, 2004
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This card's design was clearly top down. We were trying to come up with ghost tropes and an obvious one was possession. We talked about a creature that could sacrifice to gain control of anything it damaged, but once we remembered we had DFC technology, we realized there was a better way.
The earliest version of this card required the creature to get into combat with the creature it took control of as we were trying to match the flavor as close as possible. What we found, though, was that the opponent just didn't block with anything you wanted to steal. Also, because it flew for flavor reasons, it was much harder to get things to block it. Defensively, it kept the opponent from attacking, which never leads to a good game state.
No, Mark, you re-did Dominating Licid  . Maybe someone topped-down a card, but this is a Licid, and will have just as much rules issues with it as Licids do. Also, your other version of "ghost haunts person" was done with Cloistered Youth  , only now you've just blended that with Thalakos Deceiver . Really top-down (/snark).
"Possibilities abound, too numerous to count."
"Innocent, unbiased observation is a myth." --- P.B. Medawar (1969)
"Ever since man first left his cave and met a stranger with a different language and a new way of looking at things, the human race has had a dream: to kill him, so we don't have to learn his language or his new way of looking at things." --- Zapp Brannigan (Beast With a Billion Backs)
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1 year ago ::
Jan 08, 2012 - 9:35PM
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Date Joined:
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Yeah, I wasn't too impressed by Soul Seizer, either. It's not that it's way worse than Mind Control (which it is), but that its creature form is just too weak given its cost. If your opponent has almost anything bigger than a 1- or 2-drop, you're almost always going to flip this guy if it hits. I think that if they'd made it a 2/3 instead, then the choice of whether to flip or not becomes way more interesting.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 08, 2012 - 9:41PM
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I had a very specific, and painfully worded, thought enter my mind when I saw this card:
"Render unto Siezer that which is Seizer's."
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1 year ago ::
Jan 08, 2012 - 9:44PM
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May 18, 2002
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At the very least, thanks for letting me know ahead of time that I'll likely end up sitting out yet another underwheling set.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 08, 2012 - 9:54PM
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Date Joined:
Feb 22, 2005
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To me the most interesting line was the one where he mentioned casually in one sentence that we weren't getting any DFCs in Avacyn Restored. I mean, I know they're pretty divisive, but that means Werewolves have this set, and that is it. Seven more werewolves, and then no more for a very long time. They better have made them count, but the line about the fronts not being that good does not fill me with hope.
And yeah, Soul Seizer is boring. As one of very few flip cards, it could do a better job of being interesting.
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