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1 year ago  ::  Jan 02, 2012 - 11:06AM #21
Mown
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I don't get it.
"The horrors of Innistrad have learned the weakness of their prey."

The weakness was that human defences were worth nothing, and just walkin in and doing whatever they feel like is really easy?

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1 year ago  ::  Jan 02, 2012 - 12:04PM #22
NeigbhborhoodFiend
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I am somewhat hoping that this set which is focusing on the "Horror's" of innistrad, would have a few more Horror cards.


Maybe even one horror tribal card to be nice?
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 02, 2012 - 12:12PM #23
Tap4Mana
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Jan 2, 2012 -- 5:07AM, Shiny_Umbreon wrote:

Now that I re-read it, it seems that "His identity is secret now, but we will learn what role he has to play in the fate of Innistrad very soon." means "Up to now, nobody in Innistrad knows about him or what he has to do with anything", not "The audience doesn't know this planeswalker will be in Dark Ascension."




Well, that doesn't quite jive either, since the Markov bloodline is not exactly a secret to the people of Innistrad. True, Sorin himself hasn't been home in a while, but I don't think we can quite make the leap from there to no one from Innistrad knows about him.

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1 year ago  ::  Jan 02, 2012 - 12:20PM #24
Qilong
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Jan 2, 2012 -- 12:12PM, Tap4Mana wrote:

Jan 2, 2012 -- 5:07AM, Shiny_Umbreon wrote:

Now that I re-read it, it seems that "His identity is secret now, but we will learn what role he has to play in the fate of Innistrad very soon." means "Up to now, nobody in Innistrad knows about him or what he has to do with anything", not "The audience doesn't know this planeswalker will be in Dark Ascension."




Well, that doesn't quite jive either, since the Markov bloodline is not exactly a secret to the people of Innistrad. True, Sorin himself hasn't been home in a while, but I don't think we can quite make the leap from there to no one from Innistrad knows about him.




Consider that Sorin has been 'walking for centuries, not just a few years or so. He's quite old. It may be that the current spate of vampires are way too young to actually remember him. He may also be one of the progenitors of the Markov line, rather than just one of its errant scions. So, no one alive may remember him much at all.

"Possibilities abound, too numerous to count."

"Innocent, unbiased observation is a myth." --- P.B. Medawar (1969)

"Ever since man first left his cave and met a stranger with a different language and a new way of looking at things, the human race has had a dream: to kill him, so we don't have to learn his language or his new way of looking at things." --- Zapp Brannigan (Beast With a Billion Backs)
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 02, 2012 - 1:53PM #25
koRnygoatweed
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"With the exception of the elder dragon Nicol Bolas, the vampire Sorin Markov is older than all other planeswalkers described here—older than all of them combined. His multiple millennia have brought him detachment and easy confidence. Unlike Bolas, Sorin doesn't concern himself with gathering power or control. He is content to follow his whims, even when those whims are cruel or deadly."

That is a quote from the Planeswalker page, it's not as though we don't know of Sorin Markov, we don't know about Sorin.

He is a very strange character, why would such a dark soul attempt to seal away the Eldrazi when he could have just walked away from the plane and had nothing to do with it, yet he even returned to the plane when the Eldrazi were released. Sorin's spark may have ignited as a direct result of becoming a vampire, maybe at one point he was a human fighting these same horrors, but he is undoubtedly far older than any creature that inhabits Innistrad, and that includes Avacyn.

Can't wait to see what happens!
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 02, 2012 - 2:29PM #26
WolfDogMoon
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I want the card for that first image! I don't care! I want it. 
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 02, 2012 - 2:59PM #27
TobyornotToby
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Jan 2, 2012 -- 1:53PM, koRnygoatweed wrote:

"With the exception of the elder dragon Nicol Bolas, the vampire Sorin Markov is older than all other planeswalkers described here—older than all of them combined. His multiple millennia have brought him detachment and easy confidence. Unlike Bolas, Sorin doesn't concern himself with gathering power or control. He is content to follow his whims, even when those whims are cruel or deadly."

That is a quote from the Planeswalker page, it's not as though we don't know of Sorin Markov, we don't know about Sorin.

He is a very strange character, why would such a dark soul attempt to seal away the Eldrazi when he could have just walked away from the plane and had nothing to do with it, yet he even returned to the plane when the Eldrazi were released. Sorin's spark may have ignited as a direct result of becoming a vampire, maybe at one point he was a human fighting these same horrors, but he is undoubtedly far older than any creature that inhabits Innistrad, and that includes Avacyn.

Can't wait to see what happens!




I thought it was mentioned in a recent Savor the Flavor that Sorin grandfather is actually still the head of the Markov line at this point. 

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1 year ago  ::  Jan 02, 2012 - 3:08PM #28
SavageWombat
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Jan 2, 2012 -- 11:06AM, Mown wrote:

I don't get it.
"The horrors of Innistrad have learned the weakness of their prey."

The weakness was that human defences were worth nothing, and just walkin in and doing whatever they feel like is really easy?


Think of it as "they've learned how weak their prey truly is."

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1 year ago  ::  Jan 02, 2012 - 4:31PM #29
LOLIKNOW
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Sorin being a BW planeswalker in this set would actually be pretty sick.

I haven't gone too deep into the lore/flavor around the planeswalkers, but from what I've seen/heard, Sorin doesn't seem THAT bad.

However, I could be horribly mistaken by saying that xD

He could help the humans based off of one of his "whims" too ;P
Something like, "Vampires nowadays, I tell ya. Back in my day..." *Sorin's vengeance straight into Olivia's heart*

Also, the first piece of art looked like something of "mythic" quality A legendary creature, perhaps?
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 02, 2012 - 6:32PM #30
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Jan 2, 2012 -- 12:12PM, Tap4Mana wrote:

Jan 2, 2012 -- 5:07AM, Shiny_Umbreon wrote:

Now that I re-read it, it seems that "His identity is secret now, but we will learn what role he has to play in the fate of Innistrad very soon." means "Up to now, nobody in Innistrad knows about him or what he has to do with anything", not "The audience doesn't know this planeswalker will be in Dark Ascension."




...Sorin himself hasn't been home in a while, but I don't think we can quite make the leap from there to no one from Innistrad knows about him.




"A while" is quite the understatement when it has been a couple of millenia. I think it's identity as in personality and motivations rather than his name. Did they mention anything about Sorin's major effects on Innistrad before? "His past is woven with the history of this world" Also, I know he's old, but is he really older than Avacyn??


Jan 2, 2012 -- 4:31PM, LOLIKNOW wrote:

 Also, the first piece of art looked like something of "mythic" quality A legendary creature, perhaps?



 
Well, 75% of Jason Chan's art is Rares and Mythics.
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