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Switch to Forum Live View 12/20/2011 Feature: "December 20 2011 DCI Banned & Restricted List Announcement"
1 year ago  ::  Dec 19, 2011 - 4:33PM #1
Garmichael
Date Joined: Jun 24, 2008
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Feature Article, which goes live Tuesdaymorning on magicthegathering.com.
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1 year ago  ::  Dec 19, 2011 - 9:01PM #2
ElMikkino
Date Joined: Jan 27, 2011
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Expected Punishing Fire ...but not Wild Nacatl . So many banned cards in Modern...
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1 year ago  ::  Dec 19, 2011 - 9:02PM #3
Shiny_Umbreon
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WILD NACATL? REALLY?
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1 year ago  ::  Dec 19, 2011 - 9:13PM #4
Chromatone
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Who was actuly asking for Nacatl to be banned???  Goyf (who im convinced now is in the next 2 sets) KotR and BBE are waaaaay more anoying.  Nacatl dies to bolt and gets blocked by wall of omens.  Its a 3 color 1 drop and isnt much worse than lynx or gob guide.  Its much easier to beat than those other 3 creatures.
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1 year ago  ::  Dec 19, 2011 - 9:14PM #5
tnodz
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DEAR WOTC,

THE COMMUNITY IS SICK OF GETTING MORE CARDS BANNED.  IT'S ANNOYING.  IT MAKES US NOT WANT TO INVEST OR EVEN WASTE OUR TIME PLAYING THIS FORMAT IF THINGS ARE GOING TO KEEP GETTING BANNED.  WE DO NOT LIKE HOW WEAK THE FORMAT HAS BECOME.  POWERFUL CARDS ARE FUN.  WE LIKE THEM.  PLEASE STOP THIS HORRENDUS BANNING SPREE AND START UNBANNING CARDS FROM THE FORMAT BEFORE IT BECOMES EVEN MORE OF A JOKE THAN IT ALREADY IS.

LOVE
EVERYONE 
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1 year ago  ::  Dec 19, 2011 - 9:15PM #6
evilone194
Date Joined: Jun 29, 2007
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Dec 19, 2011 -- 9:01PM, ElMikkino wrote:

So many banned cards in Modern...




While it has a larger cardpool, I think the % of banned cards is higher in Legacy still than Modern. I think that this is the path to the stable format we want. Zoo was almost its legacy counterpart fighting against all of the other archetypes gimped by the banned list. 

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1 year ago  ::  Dec 19, 2011 - 9:16PM #7
JohnnyComeLately
Date Joined: Oct 25, 2008
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Speak for yourself. I, for one, and glad WOTC isn't afraid to ban in modern. Modern was supposed to be THE format for rogue decks and banning cards that see ubiquitous play is the only way to keep that spirit alive.
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1 year ago  ::  Dec 19, 2011 - 9:21PM #8
Jaz.
Date Joined: Dec 22, 2010
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Honestly, I wouldn't have banned either. I'd sooner see Grove of the Burnwillows banned than Punishing Fire, and Goyf banned before Nacatl. That's ridiculous. Let people have slightly above par burn without an abusive combo available and a slightly above par creature without a supporting abusive counterpart. These were some of the poorer picked bans. This doesn't diversify the field. It just destroys an archetype.
Puresteel players unite!
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1 year ago  ::  Dec 19, 2011 - 9:22PM #9
Scooter1
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This is just embarrassing...
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1 year ago  ::  Dec 19, 2011 - 9:25PM #10
PolishTamales
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Dec 19, 2011 -- 9:14PM, tnodz wrote:

DEAR WOTC,

THE COMMUNITY IS SICK OF GETTING MORE CARDS BANNED.  IT'S ANNOYING.  IT MAKES US NOT WANT TO INVEST OR EVEN WASTE OUR TIME PLAYING THIS FORMAT IF THINGS ARE GOING TO KEEP GETTING BANNED.  WE DO NOT LIKE HOW WEAK THE FORMAT HAS BECOME.  POWERFUL CARDS ARE FUN.  WE LIKE THEM.  PLEASE STOP THIS HORRENDUS BANNING SPREE AND START UNBANNING CARDS FROM THE FORMAT BEFORE IT BECOMES EVEN MORE OF A JOKE THAN IT ALREADY IS.

LOVE
EVERYONE 





You DO NOT speak for everyone. If you want power & value for your money, invest in Legacy since there's no such thing as a S-Tier deck like you saw in Modern a few weeks ago.

As for Modern, yes, it feels sluggish since there's no real Rock/Paper/Scissors game (Aggro/Combo/ and a completely absent Control) in terms of decks, but the bans are necessary to create diversity. Unfortunately, combo is still a huge threat in the format and so are necessary availabity (prices) of cards to combat it (Thoughtseize for example).

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