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1 year ago ::
Dec 12, 2011 - 11:35PM
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Date Joined:
Dec 10, 2011
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Okay so below is my current setup for my vampire deck. This deck also has a few quick damage instants to burn off player life / destroy creatures. This is probably not the best competitive deck out there but I just want a vampire-based standard deck. 2 x Markov Patrician  2 x Child of Night  3 x Falkenrath Noble  4 x Bloodline Keeper  4 x Rakish Heir  4 x Crossway Vampire  4 x Vampire Interloper  3 x Doom Blade  1 x Go for the Throat  2 x Brimstone Volley  2 x Vampiric Fury  1 x Victim of Night  1 x Distress  2 x Despise  10 x Mountain  15 x Swamp  Below is what I have as an option to replace above ^. 2 x Entomber Exarch  4 x Bloodcrazed Neonate  1 x Bloodgift Demon  1 x Dead Weight  2 x Geth's Verdict  1 x Victim of Night 1 x Wring Flesh  2 x Tribute to Hunger  2 x Vampiric Fury 1 x Mind Rot  2 x Night Terrors  If you can also suggest cheap cards (cheap in $ amount not in mana) that I can buy to replace some that you think aren't great, please do let me know. In other words, I can't buy 4 x Stromkirk Noble  at this moment in time as it is out of my budget. Thanks community! Cheers
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1 year ago ::
Dec 13, 2011 - 12:34AM
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Date Joined:
Oct 17, 2011
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Dragonskull Summit  is not that expensive and is the easiest way I can think of to help your deck. I would think there are better 4 drops than the Falkenrath Noble, but if you like him...
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1 year ago ::
Dec 13, 2011 - 12:49AM
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Date Joined:
Dec 10, 2011
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Hey man thanks for the response! Dragonskull Summit seems pretty awesome. The thing I love about Falkenrath Noble is that my deck is creature heavy. I plan on dropping two Markov Patrician and running with 4 Child of Night instead giving me more lower cost creatures to run with. If I can get a Falkenrath on board with a Bloodline Keeper throwing out tokens every turn, each death is a + for me! I'm thinking of dropping one Doom blade  and grabbing one more Go for the Throat as well as dropping my Victim of night  and adding another Distress
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1 year ago ::
Dec 13, 2011 - 1:24AM
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Date Joined:
Jun 15, 2007
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I think you need to run a bit more removal. Shock  and Incinerate  are both good options. I would play these instead of the hand disruption. I would also be running all 4 neonates as if you can hit with these once they are dangerous but twice and they are silly. If you are playing Rakash Heir and the Neonates, then you want to stop your opponent from blocking. As mentioned above, removal is probably the best option for this but the other option is Nightbird's Clutches  which normally allows you to get through for a lot of damage. Finally, I think 25 land is too many for an aggro deck like yours. This is what my build would look like Land (22) 9x Swamp 9x Mountain 4x Dragonskull Summit Creatures (23) 4x Vampire Interloper 4x Bloodcrazed Neonate 4x Crossway Vampire 4x Rakish Heir 4x Bloodline Keeper 3x Falkenrath Noble - I would replace these with any Stromkirk Nobles you have. Spells (15) 4x Shock 4x Incinerate 3x Nightbird's Clutches 2x Doom Blade 2x Go for the Throat
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1 year ago ::
Dec 13, 2011 - 2:25AM
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Thisd is my take on the Vampire deck, it's done ok in practice, around 50/50 wins/losses. I'm looking forward to trying it out at FNM. 23 Land 10x Mountain 8x Swamp 3x Dragonskull Summit 2x Stensia Bloodhall  21 Creatures 3x Vampire Interloper 4x Child of Night 4x Bloodcrazed Neonate 4x Rakish Heir 1x Bloodrage Vampire  2x Crossway Vampire 2x Bloodline Keeper 1x Sengir Vampire  16 Spells 4x Shock 4x Doom Blade 2x Arc Trail  2x Incinerate 1x Curse of Stalked Prey  2x Tribute to Hunger 1x Volt Charge  At first there were Contagion Clasp  s in the deck but I never really had the Mana to Proliferate off them. I want more Volt Charges as the Vamps' use a lot of +1/+1 type mechanics. I'd like to increase the 1-of cards, taking Bloodrage' out for a second Sengir' and converting 1 Shock and Curse into Voly Charges.
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1 year ago ::
Dec 13, 2011 - 3:28AM
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Date Joined:
Dec 10, 2011
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Those are both really good deck options. I really want to pick up a few Nightbird's Clutches . Also budget is no longer a concern ( a buddy of mine has a few cards he is willing to buy me  ) Since I made my last post, I have been non-stop thinking about making a more red-focused deck and just focusing on damaging my opponent as hard as possible and as fast as possible. Basically RDW with a small amount of black + vampires? That is option one. Option two is a PURE Red vampire deck (very fast damage). What do you think of these two (first is the Heavy red / Minor Black, second is mono red) Black/Red (heavy red): 23 Land 13 Mountain 10 Swamp 18 Creatures 4 x Rakish Heir 4 x Crossway Vampire 4 x Bloodcrazed Neonate 4 x Bloodline Keeper 2 x Vampire Interloper 20 Other Spells 4 x Volt Charge 4 x Incinerate 4 x Vampiric Fury 4 x Doom Blade 2 x Brimstone Volley 2 x Nightbird's Clutches RDW w/ Vampires:23 Land 23 x Mountain 18 Creatures 4 x Bloodcrazed Neonate 4 x Rakish Heir 4 x Crossway Vampire 4 x Stromkirk Noble 2 x Goblin Fireslinger  20 Other Spells 4 x Vampiric Fury 4 x Volt Charge 4 x Incinerate 4 x Shrine of Burning Rage  2 x Brimstone Volley 2 x Nightbird's Clutches What do you think of those two setups? PS - Question about Proliferate. Suppose I have a one Rakish Heir with +3/+3 on it and suppose I throw down a Volt Charge , can I proliferate my OWN creatures, thereby giving every creature of mine +3/+3 or is it only on your opponent's creatures?
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1 year ago ::
Dec 13, 2011 - 4:20AM
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Date Joined:
Jun 15, 2007
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With regards to option 1, if you are going for an aggro deck aimed at killing your opponent as quickly as possible, you should consider Bump in the Night  . 3 damage with potential for flashback if the game goes longer is very strong. Also, you want to play all 4 Vampire Interlopers to maximise your chances of getting a creature down on turn 2 and 4 Stromkirk Nobles as the best way of getting creatures out early. If you can, I would split Doom Blade with Go for the Throat as you will struggle against black heavy decks if you only Doom Blade in your deck. I'd also drop a mountain. So my changes would be +2 Vampire Interloper +3 Bump in the Night +4 Stromkirk Noble +2 Go for the Throat -1 Mountain -4 Vampiric Fury (you should rather have creatures than a pump spell to maximise damage) -2 Doom Blade (being replaced by go for the throat) -2 Bloodline Keeper (your deck is much faster now so you don't want multiple 4 drops in hand) -2 Brimstone Volley (use the volt charge and bump in the night as extra damage spells) For option 2, your deck is again very fast so I would drop 2 mountains here and add 2 more Brimstone Volleys. Proliferate allows you to put a counter on any permanent (assuming it doesn't have shroud or hexproof) whether it is yours or your opponents. This includes creatures, artifacts, planeswalkers etc.
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1 year ago ::
Dec 13, 2011 - 4:28AM
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Date Joined:
Dec 10, 2011
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Thanks for the rapid response (fortunately I presume you are in the UK and it isn't very early morning for you :D) Okay so for the first deck, I'll go ahead and get rid of the bloodline keepers (dammit haha) and brimstone volleys (I agree that bump in the night is much better) with replacement of Go for the throat. My question is, if my local store doesn't have 4 stromkirk nobles readily available (and there is casuals tomorrow) what should I keep as a 4-piece placeholder in the meantime? Also should I drop a swamp instead as I seem to have a lot more reds running around than blacks. Or maybe I should do: 10 x Mountain 8 x Swamp 4 x Dragonskull Summit For the second deck, would it be advisable to, instead of putting 2 more brimstone volleys on, perhaps put 2 shocks instead? Easy 2 damage and low cost!
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1 year ago ::
Dec 13, 2011 - 6:19AM
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Date Joined:
Jun 15, 2007
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Yes, being in the UK means it mid afternoon at the moment. If your local store does not have 4 Stromkirk Nobles I would replace these with Reckless Waif  . Most decks (except red decks) will not have a turn 1 play meaning that you are flying in for 3 damage on turn 2. You normally get to hit at least twice with a Waif before it is blocked meaning a good 6 points of damage. In terms of land, I think it doesn't matter too much which land you drop as you want both red and black early on. You also have a double red at 3 and a double black at 4. For the second deck, Shock is a good card if you are against an opponent with lots of little creatures but Brimstone volley often allows you to do 5 damage to the opponents head giving you the reach you need to finish the game.
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1 year ago ::
Dec 13, 2011 - 10:09AM
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Serjery, thought I'd give you my findings on Nightbird's Clutches . I had them in my first try at the deck I posted. I found that if I was in the position where I was ready to attack then there were no threatening blockers I wanted to Nightbird', I went off the card because it doesn't actually Tap down a Creature (a la, Feeling of Dread  ) or destroy it! Your playstyle and experiences may differ but I was dissapointed by the Nightbird', shame because I really like the flavour and art on it too! I would reccomend Tribute to Hunger though as I have used it to great success getting around Hexproof beasts like Geist of Saint Traft  and Invisible Stalker  both of which are played a lot at my local store.
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