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1 year ago  ::  Dec 06, 2011 - 7:38PM #1
ThatVulture
Date Joined: Aug 18, 2011
Posts: 57
10 island
8 plains
2 ghost quarter
4 glacial fortress

4 mindshrieker
4 aether adept  
2 sun titan
1 sphinx of Uthuun
1 Argent Sphinx
2 glimmerpoint stag

3 trepanation blade
2 sundial of the infinite
3 day of judgement
3 oblivion ring
3 cackling counterpart
1 angelic destiny
3 spectral flight  
3 mana leak
1 dissipate  


What you guys think? 
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1 year ago  ::  Dec 06, 2011 - 8:03PM #2
tehbeast
Date Joined: Jun 14, 2006
Posts: 3,602
Doublepost, delete the other thread before someone replies to it.
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1 year ago  ::  Dec 07, 2011 - 9:22AM #3
J05HVA
Date Joined: Jul 29, 2008
Posts: 224
Trepanation Blades are lame. with two suntitans you should run some Phantasmal Image . Elesh norn seems like a better seven drop than the sphinx.
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1 year ago  ::  Dec 07, 2011 - 9:52AM #4
MadAdmiral
Date Joined: Oct 26, 2011
Posts: 2,133
Not much of a control deck if you can't have any interactions for two turns.  You'll just straight up lose to a aggro deck on the play.  Really, a pretty horrible build in general.

Cut the Trepanation Blade, Mindshriekers and Sphinx.  They're not doing you any favors.  Cut the Sundials.  They're also not helping you.  Cut the enchantments.  Your fatties don't need beefing up.  I'm also not a huge fan of that Glimmerpoint Stag.  Also, the Cackling Counterpart is pretty much a dead card early game and "win more" late game.  It can probably go.  So that's 15-20 cards to add.

I'd look to add some cheap threats/removal and some better cards overall.  Perhaps some 4x Vapor Snag s.  Add in 4x Snapcaster Mage .  Add some Ponder and/or  Think Twice (4 total).  Probably should stick in 3-4x Timely Reinforcements s to stablize after the early game.  Maybe add in 2x Gideon Jura for another big threat.  Take a couple of Phantasmal Images and you're a lot closer to a playable deck.  You might want to consider upping the counter package as well, but I'll leave that as is for the moment

With all that, the deck looks something like this:

7 x Plains
11 x Island
2 x Ghost Quarter
4 x Glacial Fortress

4 x Aether Adept
2 x Sun Titan
4 x Snapcaster Mage
3 x Phantasmal Image

2 x Gideon Jura

4 x Vapor Snag
4 x Think Twice
3 x Mana Leak
1 x Dissipate
3 x Oblivion Ring
3 x Day of Judgment
3 x Timely Reinforcements

Probably could use some more tweaks.  I'm not sure Sun Titans are that good here since you aren't sure to have stuff in your graveyard to recur.  Maybe replace them with Frost Titan s, Wurmcoil Engine s or Consecrated Sphinx .  Or possibly cut them for another Gideon Jura and more counters.
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1 year ago  ::  Dec 07, 2011 - 11:20AM #5
Hexar
Date Joined: Sep 25, 2011
Posts: 244

Dec 7, 2011 -- 9:52AM, MadAdmiral wrote:

Not much of a control deck if you can't have any interactions for two turns.  You'll just straight up lose to a aggro deck on the play.  Really, a pretty horrible build in general.

Cut the Trepanation Blade, Mindshriekers and Sphinx.  They're not doing you any favors.  Cut the Sundials.  They're also not helping you.  Cut the enchantments.  Your fatties don't need beefing up.  I'm also not a huge fan of that Glimmerpoint Stag.  Also, the Cackling Counterpart is pretty much a dead card early game and "win more" late game.  It can probably go.  So that's 15-20 cards to add.

I'd look to add some cheap threats/removal and some better cards overall.  Perhaps some 4x Vapor Snag s.  Add in 4x Snapcaster Mage .  Add some Ponder and/or  Think Twice (4 total).  Probably should stick in 3-4x Timely Reinforcements s to stablize after the early game.  Maybe add in 2x Gideon Jura for another big threat.  Take a couple of Phantasmal Images and you're a lot closer to a playable deck.  You might want to consider upping the counter package as well, but I'll leave that as is for the moment

With all that, the deck looks something like this:

7 x Plains
11 x Island
2 x Ghost Quarter
4 x Glacial Fortress

4 x Aether Adept
2 x Sun Titan
4 x Snapcaster Mage
3 x Phantasmal Image

2 x Gideon Jura

4 x Vapor Snag
4 x Think Twice
3 x Mana Leak
1 x Dissipate
3 x Oblivion Ring
3 x Day of Judgment
3 x Timely Reinforcements

Probably could use some more tweaks.  I'm not sure Sun Titans are that good here since you aren't sure to have stuff in your graveyard to recur.  Maybe replace them with Frost Titan s, Wurmcoil Engine s or Consecrated Sphinx .  Or possibly cut them for another Gideon Jura and more counters.





Venser, the Sojourner is probably better than Gideon in a deck like this..... Bouncing Snapcasters and AEther Adept is pretty slick.

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1 year ago  ::  Dec 07, 2011 - 11:29AM #6
J05HVA
Date Joined: Jul 29, 2008
Posts: 224

Dec 7, 2011 -- 9:52AM, MadAdmiral wrote:

I'm not sure Sun Titans are that good here since you aren't sure to have stuff in your graveyard to recur.




I really like sun titan here, especially after the changes you suggested to the list. Using your images, snapcasters and adepts aggressivly early game to put them in the yard and then droping a Sun Titan, copying it a couple times with an image and finally grabbing an adept seems really good.



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1 year ago  ::  Dec 07, 2011 - 1:58PM #7
MadAdmiral
Date Joined: Oct 26, 2011
Posts: 2,133
@Hexar:  I didn't even think of Venser, the Sojourner .  That would be a better choice than Gideon.

@J05HVA:  It's possible that I'm writing off Sun Titan a little.  Like I said, it needs some testing to determine what works best.  If the deck seems to not be able to recur permanents with Sun Titan immediately, then there are alternatives.
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1 year ago  ::  Dec 08, 2011 - 6:45AM #8
Narshoul
Date Joined: Oct 4, 2011
Posts: 103

island
plains
2 moorland haunt ( since you have day of judgment there )
2 ghost quarter
4 glacial fortress
4 Seachrome Coast  

3 x Aether Adept
2 x Sun Titan ( a must have here, since you can return : Snapcaster/Aether Adept /Phantasmal Image
2 x Consecrated Sphinx ( really nice dude for card draw)
4 x Snapcaster Mage
3 x Phantasmal Image ( with sun titan - those 2 are best friend for late game ) 

3 x Venser, the Sojourner ( bounce back snapcaster/titan/aether adept ftw)

3 x Vapor Snag
4 x Think Twice
3 x Mana Leak
1 x Dissipate
3 x Oblivion Ring  
3 x Day of Judgment  
2 x Timely Reinforcements

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