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2 years ago  ::  Nov 21, 2011 - 12:40AM #11
Zindaras
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The Tarmogoyf story is just hilarious. "It's just a beater with no evasion." What could possibly go wrong?

Also, Surgical Extraction and Extirpate are card disadvantage and need to be set up. Lobotomy (but also Cranial Extraction and Memoricide ) require less setting up and are therefore still costed at 4 mana. I think they're overall quite fair.

And, yeah, Melvin and Spike are completely different axes. And I totally agree with MaRo regardless: Grim Lavamancer is very Spikey. Spike loves fiddly cards that allow him to maximise resources because they truly show who the better player is. It's the same reason Spikes love Dredge.

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2 years ago  ::  Nov 21, 2011 - 2:46AM #12
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I designed this cycle because I liked the idea of playing around with other costs. Normally black is the color to pay life costs, but as this was Torment, the "black set," I thought I'd help build this feel by bleeding a black-flavored element to the other four colors. Life payment felt like a bleed, but not something so egregious that it fundamentally broke the color wheel.




Is this a comment on phyrexian mana?

A world corrupted by a dark force to use lifeblood as a resource, even in other colours. But in phyrexia the colour wheel crashes and burns - most notably because of gitaxian probe and dismember. If that isn't something you regard as a mistake, perhaps it should be?

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2 years ago  ::  Nov 21, 2011 - 3:11AM #13
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Nov 21, 2011 -- 12:40AM, Zindaras wrote:

The Tarmogoyf story is just hilarious. "It's just a beater with no evasion." What could possibly go wrong?


I remember when everybody was saying this (or at least all the people who like to shout about their opinions on the Internet were).

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2 years ago  ::  Nov 21, 2011 - 4:58AM #14
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Sep 5, 2010 -- 9:26AM, Argus_Panoptes wrote:

So, how would I use a card that has a large in the top half and "sui?l? -- pu?? ?is?q" across the middle?

Dec 28, 2010 -- 11:36AM, razorborne wrote:

Dec 28, 2010 -- 10:46AM, signofzeta wrote:

Winning is not important if:

1.  You win by a blowout.

2.  You pay billions of dollars in cards to win.   If you like wasting money just to win one game, while you could have saved it to lose a few and end up winning more in the future, then it is fine by me.


what?

do you ceremonially light your deck on fire after a win?


Jan 26, 2011 -- 2:25PM, Gerdef wrote:

Or did no one notice Transmogrifying Licid before.  (And by not notice, I mean covered their ears and shouted LA LA LA LA )


Mar 2, 2011 -- 4:14PM, WotC_MattT wrote:

Mar 2, 2011 -- 12:53PM, Gerdef wrote:

Hmmm...

I think the most awkward situation at the moment is simply the Myr Welder / Equipment / Licid / Aura craziness, but I'm pretty sure he's aware of it.



If the most awkward thing going on right now involves Licids, I declare victory.



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Jun 13, 2011 -- 7:02AM, RootBreaker wrote:

I don't think there are any cards like that.

There are things that prevent you from activating activated abilities, things that increase their cost, and things that counter them, but I don't think anything triggers from them specifically.

There are things that trigger from targeting, so that might be relevant, but I can't think of anything that triggers from targeting a player.

I'm almost positive there's nothing that triggers from damage being prevented.


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2 years ago  ::  Nov 21, 2011 - 5:01AM #15
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...as black and green are the two colors most associated with the graveyard in the color pie (white is third, with blue and red a distant fourth and fifth).




You wouldn't know it from the rest of the two articles.

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2 years ago  ::  Nov 21, 2011 - 5:17AM #16
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Nov 21, 2011 -- 12:24AM, Miksal wrote:

Nov 20, 2011 -- 11:50PM, willpell wrote:

Something I learned long ago is that Spikes are the ones that love comprehending what makes the game tick. They love digging in deep to understand the minutiae of what matters.



No Mark, that's Melvin




Um, you do realize that Melvin and Spike are not mutually exclusive? Mark is talking about a particular flavour of Spike, perhaps one that you associate with Melvin - but, Melvin is on an entirely different axis then Spike, so you can easily have a Melviny Spike or a Vorthosy Spike. Melvin and Vorthos are not used in the same way as Spike, Timmy, and Johnny.




I'd go one step further, and say that Melvin and Spike are actually unilaterally inclusive. Vorthosy Spike is not easily had. For simplicity's sake, I say we can say all Spikes are Melvin.

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2 years ago  ::  Nov 21, 2011 - 6:22AM #17
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I disagree. I know several Spikes who don't really care about the way copy effects or the layers work, except inasmuch as they let them win. I'd say the Civilized Scholar / Cackling Counterpart interaction is a Melvin one primarily. A deck built around untapping a Scholar without him flipping would be a Johnny deck, until it looks good enough to win whatever context it's being brought to; only then does Spike start to like it.

But it's worth remembering that very few players are 100% Spike.
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2 years ago  ::  Nov 21, 2011 - 6:46AM #18
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Nov 21, 2011 -- 6:22AM, alextfish wrote:

I disagree. I know several Spikes who don't really care about the way copy effects or the layers work, except inasmuch as they let them win. I'd say the Civilized Scholar / Cackling Counterpart interaction is a Melvin one primarily. A deck built around untapping a Scholar without him flipping would be a Johnny deck, until it looks good enough to win whatever context it's being brought to; only then does Spike start to like it.

But it's worth remembering that very few players are 100% Spike.




I think this is because there are different kinds of Melvin, just like there are distinct kinds of T/J/S, like the Power Timmy or the Diversity Timmy. Some Spikes will have stronger or different Melvin tendencies than others. 

I also said inulateral as opposed to mutual, because indeed you can have interactions like the one you mentioned that are Melvin but not Spike. It's the other way around that I say works =p

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2 years ago  ::  Nov 21, 2011 - 9:27AM #19
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Just a beater without evasion , so it can cost 1G. 
Just a beater without evasion .
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2 years ago  ::  Nov 21, 2011 - 10:56PM #20
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Nov 21, 2011 -- 3:11AM, Mata_Hari wrote:

Nov 21, 2011 -- 12:40AM, Zindaras wrote:

The Tarmogoyf story is just hilarious. "It's just a beater with no evasion." What could possibly go wrong?


I remember when everybody was saying this (or at least all the people who like to shout about their opinions on the Internet were).




Yeah, me too, but they must be feeling pretty silly right about now as well.

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