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2 years ago ::
Nov 08, 2011 - 3:41PM
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rules, yes Sever is just to help hold the flood down. Tribute, Despise, and BSZ should be held for crusaders or geists. Throw Doom Blades, Victims, and Severs at the other guys or lay out a Phyrexian Crusader to intercept. Of course Sever will 2 for 1 later but 1:1 against aggro is fine as long as you have a way to draw back into a positive ca situation.
slobad41, against GW overrun I'd start with:
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2xVictim of Night
In:
2xSever the Bloodline
If that isn't enough you can sideboard out the 4 x Plague Stingers (the biggest loser against midnight haunting from blind combats) for 2 x BSZ and 1x Blade and 1x Tribute.
If that still isn't helping go with the WU sideboard plan because it means they've got enough interference to keep you from out-aggro'ing them.
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2 years ago ::
Nov 09, 2011 - 4:53AM
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Tnx Niche  MABUHAY KA.
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2 years ago ::
Nov 09, 2011 - 8:51AM
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Hey guys first time using the forums.
Hey Niche have you playtested with Liliana of the Veil and Phyrexian Metamorph? if so, wat do you think of them?
Thanks!
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2 years ago ::
Nov 09, 2011 - 9:08AM
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Hey guys first time using the forums.
Hey Niche have you playtested with Liliana of the Veil and Phyrexian Metamorph? if so, wat do you think of them?
Thanks!
I did test a miser Metamorph as an attempt to have a '5th' lashwrithe or extra crusader or answer for Thrun/Elesh Norn... but I ended up cutting it for a 25th land. It didn't perform very well.
Liliana is too much on the 3 curve... in an aggro deck the discard will probably not be used when you need to use it (too late)... and for 3cmc edict effects I'd rather have instant speed + lifegain from Tribute to Hunger in this deck. You pay an awful lot of life out to build tempo and tribute is amazing because of it.
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2 years ago ::
Nov 09, 2011 - 9:42AM
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What do you guys think of today's Building on a Budget MBI list? I don't think it's as good as Niche's, but what do you think of some of the specific choices? Like including Trigon of Rage  or maindecking Curse of Death's Hold  ? Personally, I wouldn't maindeck the Curse, but that's because I haven't seen any token decks in my meta (yet). I do kind of like one or two Gitaxian Probe  as an alternative to Gambit though.
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2 years ago ::
Nov 09, 2011 - 9:44AM
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You can't build on more of a budget than MBI. I mean you cut the inkmoths and you're down to less than $40 I think for everything else.
Probe < Gambit.
Curse in the maindeck? Yuck.
Trigon of Rage would be ok if you wanted a 5th or 6th lashwrithe I guess.
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2 years ago ::
Nov 09, 2011 - 12:59PM
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I really like it. One thing I noticed though was that you said necropede  was terrible, because you could 2 for 1 yourself. Unless I'm reading it wrong though, the ability is a "may" ability, so if they didn't have any other creatures out, you wouldn't be forced to put a -1/-1 counter on your own creature, so it wouldn't be a 2 for 1. That being said, I still think the creatures being used outclass necropede by quite a bit. However, it could possibly be a decent sideboard option in a RDW heavy meta.
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2 years ago ::
Nov 09, 2011 - 2:10PM
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You can't build on more of a budget than MBI. I mean you cut the inkmoths and you're down to less than $40 I think for everything else.
Probe < Gambit.
Curse in the maindeck? Yuck.
Trigon of Rage would be ok if you wanted a 5th or 6th lashwrithe I guess.
When I did the numbers, Black Infect without Inkmoths came to just under $100 USD.
I'm interested in trying Trigons where I currently have Mutagenic Growth.
It's really not even about giving niche cards to black.
It should be about giving black cards to Niche.
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2 years ago ::
Nov 09, 2011 - 4:48PM
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Ah sorry about the necropede goof. I'll adjust the OP.
MrIndigo, let me know how Trigons work out. I'm a little curious about both but they seem cutesy in their own ways. Trigon being a better winner... but growth being a couterspell of sorts.
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2 years ago ::
Nov 09, 2011 - 5:28PM
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I do legitimately use Mutagenic Growth to do mid-combat tricks (e.g. Growth a Crusader, block a Titan) to save my guys where they'd otherwise trade, which is why I'm a little concerned at the vastly more mana-costly Trigons.
It's really not even about giving niche cards to black.
It should be about giving black cards to Niche.
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