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2 years ago  ::  Oct 29, 2011 - 9:51PM #1
NeoMint
Date Joined: Aug 25, 2010
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Cosmic Horror is. As is Ebon Praetor . Why then, does the governing power level decided upon yield cards on a different power curve than what yielded good fatties with drawbacks? I like my fatties with baggage, dammit. Why, I remember the third time I rage-quit Magic. It was over this new-fangled creature that was enormous and had no drawbacks. It was Darksteel Colossus .

Why then, did I quit? I'd been one-upped by something anti-thetical to my preferences. There's no merits to card design, just value judgments. I hate watching Deadliest Warrior for the same reason. Who's to say giant robots are tougher than Cthuhlu monsters? It's silly every which way!

So when something comes along and corrupts the sentimentality of what I despise, I can't help but grin. Thank you, Blightsteel Colossus , for stopping the bad man.


It begs the question though...now that I think about it. How tough is an Orc? Or an Otyugh? How about a NaOcho? Who says so? It`s just another reason to hate creature spells that aren`t Worldgorgers or kobolds .

Who are the toughest creatures in Magic? Pit Spawn ? Engulfing Slagwurm ? A Talruum Champion   equipped with a Runesword ? Who do you think? I just wish that power level didn't not equal concept. And who's the Matt Ward-shaped object that keeps upping the power scales, anyhow?

Just so long as I don't have to look at Darksteel Colossus anymore.

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2 years ago  ::  Oct 29, 2011 - 10:08PM #2
darkeshrine
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Oct 29, 2011 -- 9:51PM, NeoMint wrote:


 Why, I remember the third time I rage-quit Magic. It was over this new-fangled creature that was enormous and had no drawbacks. It was Darksteel Colossus .

.... 


Just so long as I don't have to look at Darksteel Colossus anymore.




Blightsteel is the same way though. He's enormous and has no drawbacks, that and he puts you on a shorter clock than his uncorrupted form.


Its going to eat me!

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Feb 21, 2012 -- 12:37PM, MTGKaioshin wrote:

Feb 21, 2012 -- 12:04PM, Nyktos wrote:

What happens if there's a tie for first?

Monkey knife fight


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2 years ago  ::  Oct 29, 2011 - 10:19PM #3
NeoMint
Date Joined: Aug 25, 2010
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Oct 29, 2011 -- 10:08PM, darkeshrine wrote:

Oct 29, 2011 -- 9:51PM, NeoMint wrote:


 Why, I remember the third time I rage-quit Magic. It was over this new-fangled creature that was enormous and had no drawbacks. It was Darksteel Colossus .

.... 


Just so long as I don't have to look at Darksteel Colossus anymore.




Blightsteel is the same way though. He's enormous and has no drawbacks, that and he puts you on a shorter clock than his uncorrupted form.




Yeah, but the damage was already done to my favourites by Darksteel, and now I can laugh spitefully at people who complained about DSC benig obsoleted.

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2 years ago  ::  Oct 29, 2011 - 11:22PM #4
Chamale
Date Joined: Mar 15, 2009
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Magic designers have realized that Blightsteel Colossus has a massive drawback, though. That drawback is "If you control less than 12 lands and Blightsteel Colossus is in your hand, your maximum hand size is reduced by one." Huge flashy creatures like Blightsteel Colossus and Emrakul, the Aeons Torn are completely dead in your hand unless you have a deck that's good at exploiting them.
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2 years ago  ::  Oct 30, 2011 - 2:22AM #5
RPJesus
Date Joined: Nov 27, 2005
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Oct 29, 2011 -- 9:51PM, NeoMint wrote:


Who are the toughest creatures in Magic? 



Ramirez DePietro .

Zammm = Batman.
Bronies unite.
"I'd call you a genius, but I'm in the room."
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Jul 29, 2012 -- 9:56PM, ChaosLight wrote:


Everything is better when you read it in Bane's voice.


Oct 18, 2012 -- 11:06AM, SteelWall wrote:

Your human antics and desire to continue living have moved me. Just kidding. You cannot move me physically or emotionally. Wall humor.


Oct 26, 2012 -- 8:17AM, Chaikov wrote:

Copy effects work like a photocopy machine: you get a copy of the 'naked' card, NOT of what's on it.



Dec 3, 2012 -- 10:18PM, Splattercat wrote:


Funny story:
InQuest Magazine (I think it was InQuest) had an oversized Chaos Orb which I totally rooked someone into allowing into a (non-sanctioned) game. 
I had a proxy card that was a Mountain with "Chaos Orb" written on it. When I played it, my opponent cried foul:

Him: "WTF? a Proxy? no-one said anything about Proxies. Do you even own an actual Chaos Orb?"
Me: "Yes, but I thought it would be better to use a Proxy." 
Him: "No way. If you're going to put a Chaos Orb in your deck you have to use your actual Chaos Orb."
Me: "*Sigh*. Okay."

I pulled out this huge Chaos Orb and placed it on the table. He tried to cry foul again but everyone else said he insisted I use my actual Chaos Orb and that was my actual Chaos Orb. I used it, flipped it and wiped most of his board.

Unsurprisingly, that only worked once and only because everyone present thought it was hilarious.


My DM on Battleminds:

no, see i can kill defenders, but 8 consecutive crits on a battlemind, eh walk it off.





Jan 15, 2013 -- 5:28PM, Iam_IronMan wrote:


Jan 15, 2013 -- 5:20PM, Jerrymm91 wrote:

Hi guys!  So, I'm a sort of returning player to Magic.  I say sort of because as a child I had two main TCG's I liked.  Yu-Gi-Oh, and Pokemon.  Some of my friends branched off in to Magic, and I bought two pre-made decks just to kind of fit in.  Like I said, Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon were what I really knew how to play.  I have a extensive knowledge of deck building in those two TCG's.  However, as far as Magic is concerned, I only ever used those two pre made decks.  I know how the game is played, and I know general things, but now I want to get in the game for real.  I want to begin playing it as a regular.  My question is, are all cards ever released from the time of the inception of this game until present day fair game in a deck?  Or are there special rules?  Are some cards forbidden or restricted?  Thanks guys, and I will gladly accept ANY help lol. 


I have the same problem with women.




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Jan 7, 2012 -- 6:59PM, KeeperofManyNames wrote:

And that's why you should never, ever call RP Jesus on being a troll, because then everyone else playing along gets outed, too, and the thread goes back to being boring.



Dec 2, 2012 -- 1:39PM, KeeperofManyNames wrote:

See, this is why RPJesus should be in charge of the storyline. The novel line would never have been cancelled if he had been running the show. Specifically the Slobad and Geth's Head talkshow he just described.



Dec 17, 2012 -- 4:27PM, KeeperofManyNames wrote:

Not only was that an obligatory joke, it was an on-topic post that still managed to be off-topic due to thread derailment. RP Jesus does it again folks.




Feb 8, 2012 -- 4:40AM, ArtVenn wrote:

I think I'm gonna' start praying to Jesus... That's right, RPJesus, I'm gonna' be praying to you, right now.

O' Jesus

Please continue to make my time here on the forums fun and cause me to chuckle.

Amen.


Feb 17, 2011 -- 3:08AM, ArtVenn wrote:

Feb 16, 2011 -- 6:43PM, RPJesus wrote:

It was wonderful. Us Johnnies had a field day. That Timmy with the Grizzly bears would actually have to think  about swinging into your Mogg Fanatic , giving you time to set up your silly combo . Nowadays it's all DERPSWING! with thier blue jeans and their MP3 players and their EM EM OH AR PEE JEES and their "Dewmocracy" and their children's card games and their Jersey Shores and their Tattooed Tenaged Vampire Hunters from Beverly Hills


Seriously, that was amazing.  I laughed my *ss off.  Made my day, and I just woke up.


ArtVenn
You're still one of my favorite people... just sayin'.




Jan 11, 2012 -- 7:19AM, Salla wrote:

Jan 11, 2012 -- 4:37AM, Ogiwan wrote:


.....would it be a bit blasphemous if I said, "PRAYSE RPJAYSUS!" like an Evangelical preacher?



Perhaps, but who doesn't like to blaspheme every now and again?

Especially when Mr. RPJesus is completely right.


May 16, 2011 -- 12:18PM, Salla wrote:

I don't say this often, but ...

LOL



May 10, 2010 -- 7:37AM, AivaRuin wrote:



You... You... Evil something... I actualy made the damn char once I saw the poster...

Now you made me see it again and I gained resolve to put it into my campaign. Shell be high standing oficial of Cyrix order. Uterly mad and only slightly evil.

And it'll be bad. Evil even. And ill blame you and Lizard for it :P.



Jun 29, 2011 -- 11:05AM, Lineov wrote:

Jun 28, 2011 -- 2:44PM, Litmus wrote:



I'm trying to work out if you're being sarcastic here.  ...



Am going to stop you right there... it's RPJesus... he's always sarcastic


Jan 16, 2012 -- 11:37PM, febbstalicious42 wrote:

Jan 16, 2012 -- 11:35PM, RPJesus wrote:

Jan 16, 2012 -- 9:58PM, HeartlessNobody wrote:

we can only hope it gets the jace treatment...it could have at least been legendary


So that even the decks that don't run it run it to deal with it? Isn't that like the definition of format warping?


I lol'd.


Oct 26, 2011 -- 11:40PM, zammm wrote:

Oct 26, 2011 -- 7:43PM, TyGuy42 wrote:

Uktabi Orangutan What the heck's going on with those monkeys?

The most common answer is that they are what RPJesus would call "[Debutantes avert your eyes]ing."



Feb 9, 2012 -- 8:41AM, Dilleux_Lepaire wrote:

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Feb 9, 2012 -- 7:45AM, KeeperofManyNames wrote:

Feb 9, 2012 -- 5:49AM, ORC_Ragnar wrote:

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You can review the Code here: www.wizards.com/Company/About.aspx?x=wz_...

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...Am I the only one that thinks this is reaching the point of downright Kafkaesque insanity?



I condone the use of the word Kafkaesque. However, I'm presentely ambivalent. I mean, that can't be serious, right? We're April 1st, right? They didn't mod RPJesus for off-topic discussion when the WHOLE THREAD IS OFF-TOPIC, right?

Right.



Mar 9, 2012 -- 3:32PM, Garthanos wrote:

Mar 7, 2012 -- 4:54PM, RPJesus wrote:


Save or die. If you disagree with this, you're wrong (Not because of any points or arguements that have been made, but I just rolled a d20 for you and got a 1, so you lose).



Mar 19, 2012 -- 5:07PM, Kalnaur wrote:

Mar 19, 2012 -- 4:41PM, DoctorBadWolf wrote:


This just won the argument, AFAIC.



That's just awesome.



May 12, 2010 -- 9:36AM, JustTerrorIt wrote:

May 11, 2010 -- 5:46PM, Master_Yumyums wrote:

HOW DID I NOT KNOW ABOUT THE BEAR PRODUCING WORDS OF WILDING?!  WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME?!



That's what RPJesus tends to do. That's why I don't think he's a real person, but some Magic Card Archive Server sort of machine, that is programmed to react to other posters' comments with obscure cards that do in fact exist, but somehow missed by even the most experienced Magic players.

And then come up with strange combos with said cards. All of that is impossible for a normal human to do given the amount of time he does it and how often he does it.

He/It got me with Light of Sanction , which prompted me to go to RQ&A to try and find if it was even possible to do combat damage to a creature I control (in light that Mark of Asylum exists).



Dec 16, 2011 -- 10:16AM, HairlessThoctar wrote:


+10



Jun 24, 2012 -- 8:23PM, Eonblueapocalypse1 wrote:

Jun 24, 2012 -- 8:13PM, RPJesus wrote:

Jun 24, 2012 -- 8:02PM, tehbeast wrote:

heaven or hell.


Round 1. Lets rock.



GG quotes!

RPJesus just made this thread win!



Jul 25, 2012 -- 12:06AM, WhiteRaven810 wrote:

Jul 23, 2012 -- 6:26PM, RPJesus wrote:

Jul 23, 2012 -- 5:47PM, felisdomesticus wrote:


Blue players get all the overpowerered cards like JTMS.  I think it's time that wizards gave something to people who remember what magic is really about:  creatures.


Initially yes, Wizards was married to blue. However, about a decade ago they had a nasty divorce, and a few years after that they began courting the attention of Green. Then in Worldwake they had a nasty affair with their ex, but as of Innistrad , things seem to have gotten back on track, and Wizards has even proposed .



You are my favorite. Yes you. And moments like this make it so. Thank you RPJesus for just being you.



On what flavor text fits me:

Nov 15, 2012 -- 12:55AM, CadaverousBl00m wrote:

Surely RPJesus gets Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius ?



Sep 15, 2012 -- 4:24PM, Dragon_Nut wrote:


First: I STILL can't take you seriously with that avatar. And I can take RPJesus seriously, so that's saying something.



Sep 17, 2012 -- 1:31PM, Banderbear wrote:


I'd offer you a cookie for making me laugh but it has an Upkeep Cost that has been known to cause people to quit eating.



Jan 2, 2013 -- 7:46AM, royk wrote:



I you loads



Jan 20, 2013 -- 10:27PM, TV_Casualty wrote:

Jan 20, 2013 -- 10:17PM, RPJesus wrote:

"AINT NO LAWS IN THE SKY MOTHER****." - Agrus Kos, Wojek Veteran


10/10. Amazing.



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2 years ago  ::  Oct 30, 2011 - 2:39AM #6
DrWorm
Date Joined: Nov 18, 2003
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I am a great card, don't know what you are talking about.

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2 years ago  ::  Oct 30, 2011 - 3:38AM #7
Void_Elemental
Date Joined: Feb 17, 2004
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Oct 29, 2011 -- 11:22PM, Chamale wrote:

Magic designers have realized that Blightsteel Colossus has a massive drawback, though. That drawback is "If you control less than 12 lands and Blightsteel Colossus is in your hand, your maximum hand size is reduced by one." Huge flashy creatures like Blightsteel Colossus and Emrakul, the Aeons Torn are completely dead in your hand unless you have a deck that's good at exploiting them.




It would be an actual drawback if things like Tron lands, loci, Tinker , the Polymorphs, Shape Anew , etc. didn't exist. A halfway decent deck builder won't just toss in an eldrazi or a colossus and hope to get down 10+ lands to cast them.

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2 years ago  ::  Oct 30, 2011 - 6:15AM #8
phaseshifter
Date Joined: Jul 19, 2001
Posts: 4,573

Oct 29, 2011 -- 9:51PM, NeoMint wrote:


Cosmic Horror is. As is Ebon Praetor . Why then, does the governing power level decided upon yield cards on a different power curve than what yielded good fatties with drawbacks? I like my fatties with baggage, dammit. Why, I remember the third time I rage-quit Magic. It was over this new-fangled creature that was enormous and had no drawbacks. It was Darksteel Colossus .

Why then, did I quit? I'd been one-upped by something anti-thetical to my preferences. There's no merits to card design, just value judgments. I hate watching Deadliest Warrior for the same reason. Who's to say giant robots are tougher than Cthuhlu monsters? It's silly every which way!

So when something comes along and corrupts the sentimentality of what I despise, I can't help but grin. Thank you, Blightsteel Colossus , for stopping the bad man.


It begs the question though...now that I think about it. How tough is an Orc? Or an Otyugh? How about a NaOcho? Who says so? It`s just another reason to hate creature spells that aren`t Worldgorgers or kobolds .

Who are the toughest creatures in Magic? Pit Spawn ? Engulfing Slagwurm ? A Talruum Champion   equipped with a Runesword ? Who do you think? I just wish that power level didn't not equal concept. And who's the Matt Ward-shaped object that keeps upping the power scales, anyhow?

Just so long as I don't have to look at Darksteel Colossus anymore.




The mana cost is drawback enough. And it would be boring if all fatties were like that (they would also be played less)

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2 years ago  ::  Oct 30, 2011 - 6:37AM #9
NeoMint
Date Joined: Aug 25, 2010
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And yet, they don't print sweetness like Ebon Praetor anymore. That and Colossus of Sardia .
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2 years ago  ::  Oct 30, 2011 - 8:24AM #10
LunaStik
Date Joined: Oct 8, 2010
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They still print fatties with other drawbacks, just not that many. Casual players would buy less of a product if they printed more because they don't understand why they could be considered good. 

Jun 24, 2012 -- 9:44AM, Dilleux_Lepaire wrote:



As long as it's random, I really can't see where's the problem. Anyway, there's already a few standard ways for doing this. We listed them in this thread. If someone does the bogey-bogey, eats the cards, waits until they come out, look out the approximate order, place replacements in the same order, calls the president to ask him to give him a string of numbers, puts the card in the given order, then pick the cards in the order given by taking the date of birth of his opponent, reversed, and taking only every other number, then a judge can clearly declare that he's random enough.


Jan 20, 2013 -- 7:03AM, Dragon_Nut wrote:


The beauty of sarcasm is that when the person using it is totally incorrect, you can just remove the sarcasm and end up with a post that is actually correct.

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