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1 year ago  ::  Nov 30, 2011 - 5:02PM #101
Jizzon
Date Joined: Nov 26, 2011
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Heck, I could even deal with Izzet Chronarch with all of the bounce that's in the deck.

Nin would fit the curve pretty well, but that ability could get abusive pretty fast. Would be pretty cool though.

How about 2x Beast Hunt for Apex Predators? Versatility and/or removal...exactly what the deck needs.
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1 year ago  ::  Nov 30, 2011 - 5:18PM #102
Gegliosch
Date Joined: Mar 30, 2010
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Beast Hunt must've been a typo, what card do you mean?
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1 year ago  ::  Nov 30, 2011 - 5:28PM #103
Brodo
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I'm guessing Beast Within .
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1 year ago  ::  Nov 30, 2011 - 9:33PM #104
zammE-
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Browbeat for Strength of Stone please!
I am White/Black
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1 year ago  ::  Dec 01, 2011 - 5:24AM #105
Jizzon
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Haha yes; Beast Within is what I meant.   Beast Hunt is a perfect example of the kinds of things they should stop doing with these decks, which is to give clearly inferior versions of better unlockables...especially at the cost of other card slots.

Also, for those who would like to see Ambush Viper added to AP...what weakness would this actually be addressing?  Besides giving you a reason to pull vanilla Bears out of the deck, they don't do much to actually help you win any more games.  You already have a solid ground game.   Skinshifter would make much more sense.
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1 year ago  ::  Dec 01, 2011 - 6:02AM #106
donfuan
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Dec 1, 2011 -- 5:24AM, Jizzon wrote:

Haha yes; Beast Within is what I meant.   Beast Hunt is a perfect example of the kinds of things they should stop doing with these decks, which is to give clearly inferior versions of better unlockables...especially at the cost of other card slots.

Also, for those who would like to see Ambush Viper added to AP...what weakness would this actually be addressing?  Besides giving you a reason to pull vanilla Bears out of the deck, they don't do much to actually help you win any more games.  You already have a solid ground game.   Skinshifter would make much more sense.




AP has abloutely no removal, so deathtouch has to fill in for that. Not sure about Beast Within , would you use that on a Gideon's Lawkeeper ? One problem solved, the next on the table... Sure, i'd works when using it on huge flyers or Lords. But to get rid of these awkward little ceratures like Gelectrode s, it's too much to give your opponent a 3/3...

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1 year ago  ::  Dec 01, 2011 - 9:30AM #107
CrazyToast
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Beast Within for AP would be amazing. You shouldn't worry about the 3/3 beast. AP has enough strong creatures to deal with it.
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1 year ago  ::  Dec 01, 2011 - 10:06AM #108
Splattercat
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2x Beast Within might even increase it's odds against multi-coloured decks somewhat since you could frag their lands with it and leave them short a colour. Turn 3 for example, giving AD a 3/3 beast is a small price to pay if you happen to remove their only Forest.
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1 year ago  ::  Dec 01, 2011 - 4:02PM #109
Jizzon
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Dec 1, 2011 -- 6:02AM, donfuan wrote:

AP has abloutely no removal, so deathtouch has to fill in for that.




A small, non-flying, non-reach creature with deathtouch doesn't remove any of the deck's weaknesses, flash or otherwise.  What does it do against RoI, BH, AD, GW, or any other deck that AP's fat, regenerating ground horde couldn't already handle?  Again, to fill up the 2-slot much better, the deck should get at least one Skinshifter , if not two.

Ambush Viper is almost always a one-for-one against another grounded creature, so...it's better than Runeclaw Bear .  Unfortunately, that's not enough to make this deck competitive, so it needs something better.  Either a much better two-drop that actually addresses some of these concerns, like Skinshifter, or something that can actually address some of its glaring weaknesses directly, like...

Not sure about Beast Within , would you use that on a Gideon's Lawkeeper ? One problem solved, the next on the table... Sure, i'd works when using it on huge flyers or Lords. But to get rid of these awkward little ceratures like Gelectrode s, it's too much to give your opponent a 3/3...




As others have correctly stated, AP has very little problem handling a vanilla 3/3 creature.  It's much more important to be able to knock out that flyer that's beating you down, pick off that lord at a key moment during an attack, not worry about abilities of Gelectrodes or Lawkeepers, or even blow up an artifact or enchantment that's giving you trouble.

Worst case, you can nuke one of your own lands or dying creatures to get a needed 3/3 for a finishing blow, or a surprise blocker.  It even lets you exploit the slim possibility of nuking a needed land for multicolor decks (which would be the main reason it might not be considered, which, like Vindicate for the upcoming Dark Heavens deck, is tragic).  So many godd possibilities, play interactions, and much-needed strength, all in one.

You did mention another good option earlier that would really go well with some of the regenerating creatures:   Nevinyrral's Disk .  Would also be an awesome inclusion for some of the same reasons, without the land-nuke liability.  Even Hurricane would be a great step up.

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1 year ago  ::  Dec 01, 2011 - 5:34PM #110
RageBattle
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This is why I suggest Prey Upon . It brings the creature to you, and you either outclass it entirely, or can survive with regeneration if it's a troll.
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